• givesomefucks@lemmy.world
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    3 days ago

    Fucking infuriating for all the people who said 30 years ago letting Clinton off for lying under oath would snowball…

    An absolute shit ton of people saw this coming for decades.

    If you refuse to hold “your team” accountable, it just means the most corrupt people possible will represent your team.

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      3 days ago

      I saw it coming forever ago, always been astonished governments didn’t move faster to impose controls.

      But what does Clinton have to do with it? Lying about a blowjob, even under oath to Congress, is pretty thin sauce for impeachment. If fact, impeachment would have set a dangerous precedent for future Presidents. If that tiny lie would be the standard, every President would be impeached by the opposing party, every time.

      Where we fucked up was not impeaching Trump the first two times around. Now it’s impossible.

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        2 days ago

        It wasn’t about the bj, it wouldn’t have been about 1,000

        It was about the president lying under oath.

        It was normalized from them on out, and you might think it was forever ago, but there have been two Republican presidents since: Lil Bush, and trump.

        And they told big lies that caused a shit ton of death and destruction.

        Dems haven’t done too much better. Obama lied out his ass and everyone fell for it, and Biden was so out of it his entire admin and mainstream media had to lie for him.

        On along enough timeline, it’s clear cause and effect.

        The president stopped being held to their word, and shit went downhill fast

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          I mean there is a shit ton to blame Clinton for. His reagan-like administration helped to destroy a lot of the guardrails that we could have been using today. Is deregulation campaigns were devastating to the American system. Truly one of the worst Presidents in our history.

          However while I think he’s a piece of shit for lying under oath it is beyond naive to think Republicans needed an excuse for their lawlessness. These are people that already resented the idea that Nixon had to pay any price for his crimes. These are people that colluded with Iran to win an election. Then they committed high treason in the Iran Contra affair. Then one of the participants of that affair pardoned everyone involved with it. If you think for one second they needed Bill Clinton’s endorsement of lying under oath to justify their behavior you are nuts. They were well well past that.