Fuckin welfare states. Pick yourselves up by the bootstraps you fuckin “without us America is nothing” fuck boys. I’m tired of these red states hurting people and still getting handouts.
I always have to laugh when I’d see people online arguing for rural areas/rural states and getting chapped about states being called “flyover states”. They’d start with that “but WE supply your food! The people in the cities would starve without us!”
WTAF. Get outta here with that shit. First of all, most of what I eat comes from Mexico and California. Secondly, it’s not as if these people are supplying food out of a sense of altruism. They act like they are really doing something truly noble and everyone else should bow and scrape over their racist bullshit because of that?
These people are going to really not know what to say as automation really, really starts taking flight for these kinds of jobs (why we started applying AI to things like white collar jobs first I have no idea). I know for a fact that full, end-to-end automation is a goal of the coal industry and it sure as hell is one for farming, too, as I saw a presentation on it being made several years ago. In any case, it’s going to be hard for these morons that happen to live near corporations extracting food from the land act like they should call the shots on how most Americans live their lives.
These assholes have been unable to deal with the reality that most Americans live in cities and have for quite some time…they just have not caught up. But these people think a minority are “real murica”.
So US tax payers are paying for the tariffs. Who would have every guessed?
Paying twice. You pay the tariffs on imported goods and pay again to bailout the local farmers who can’t sell their goods overseas.
Three times because we are also bailing out the country that is selling the soybeans we would normally sell to China.
Well, it’s certainly not coming from the tariffs
For this large of a bailout, my groceries should be free.
No, socialism is only for corporations and now farmers too I guess.
It was always for farmers… Capitalism is really bad at sustaining farm output
Capitalism dictates that we only grow food for profit. When it stops being profitable to grow food, we don’t grow food, and then (poor) people starve.
This is not a bug; this is a feature.
Oh, no no no… It’s so much worse than even that
See, farming massive fields is pretty easy with technology, and with petrochemical fertilizer you can grow in depleted soil. So is keeping livestock, more so if you keep them in cruel conditions
So there’s a problem there… And I don’t mean the environmental issues. It’s too cheap. Farmers would have to sell at a loss
We produce so much food that the farms would all go out of business without intervention.
But the government can’t set quotas or control access to the market… That’s socialism or something
Instead, the government pays farmers to burn portion of their crop, we put ethanol in gasoline (even though it’s a bad idea), the government siezes some of the crop to stockpile and maybe sell (and give you whatever cut they like), we used to ship tons of food overseas through USAID, and so much more
Industrial farming does not play nice with capitalism.
Don’t forget other countries.
I like how “american farmers” sounds like helping the little guy. No. Just another corporate bailout, nothing to see here.
Liberal America still envisions old dudes in overalls growing carrots in a small field, a single tear rolling down their cheek as their 6 children look on with empty bowls.
Rather than almost completely industrialized corn factories producing the raw materials for overseas ethanol production.
That view is confined to liberals?
No, but middle-class liberal america are still the country’s actual breadbasket, and the ones who are most easily influenced with simplistic imagery and narratives, so that’s who these stories are designed to appeal to. It would really, really twist official narratives if America broadly realized that some industries get socialism and others don’t.
this is the problem with politics nowadays. You see it as a left vs right thing, its just divide and conquer against the masses in what is rich vs poor.
I don’t understand what you’re going on about, I am talking about politics as it’s happening, and didn’t even frame it in a left/right way, I am talking about the administration and media’s framing of bailouts for “farmers.”
Are you a bot?
What about everyone else’s wallets that have been hurt by his decisions?
We paid out 20 billion dollars to Argentina, fucked over a bunch of American soy bean farmers in MAGA country and so he’s paying them another 10 billion to not turn on him. Cool.
Framers are millionaires. Their farmland the equipment needed to run it is hugely expensive. They voted for bailouts and tax breaks the first time, and that’s what they voted for this time. When they weren’t getting what they voted for they threatened to turn on him until he gave in. They won’t learn anything from this except that they get tax breaks and bailouts from Trump.
No, this is yet another bullshit excuse to feed money to the already wealthy megacorps that are in the Ag business. Small farmers won’t get a damn thing, just like last time.
Ah, the good old socialist handouts!
Socialism!
Last time it cost us $26 billion because of his stupid tariffs. Why can’t he just go play golf
Welfare queens
I think I heard some woman politician on an older podcast episode from Thom Hartmann who was talking about sitting down with conservatives in her state and why they voted for Donvict, even though they knew he would start another trade war that would harm them - they figured he would just bail them out again.
There is a video of a farmer saying the same thing. They knew they would get bailed out.
It’s funny how timely that episode was, because I’m catching up on older episodes and I’m pretty sure the episode was from March of this year.
While the MAGAt fucks continue to cry about SOCIALISM.
2 terms, 2 bailouts for farmers.
You mean make the US taxpayers pay them instead? Get one of his buddies he had fleece the stock market to the tune of hundreds of billions pay for it. Fuck these guys. I’m not paying federal tax these next four years.
Well, that’s probably what the tariffs are for. Pay tribute to Taco via the Taco Tax, and then he gets to dole it out as favors to buy votes for the conservatives.
Kinda feel like they’re just pocketing all that plus the funds they illegally stole back.
