It is weird how “free speech” is there for the right, but not anyone else.
All non-fascists need to start punishing the fascists for their speech. We’ve been way too tolerant for way too long. Shout them down, ostracise, refuse service, etc.
I remember when Huckabee being denied a cheese plate or Rand Paul being followed by people asking him questions had them quaking in their boots and pretending they were being terrorized for such behaviors.
Imagine if it was a coordinated effort to just merely ostracize and verbally challenge these people? God, they’d be in a fetal position. They really do believe they are their god’s gift to humanity and NO ONE has any right to question them or push back even if ever so mildly.
I don’t just mean Huckabee and Rand Paul. I mean everyone with even so much as a whiff of MAGA about them, no matter how much of a nobody they are. I don’t care if it’s as mild as a little old lady in line with you at the damn grocery store check-out conversationally mentioning “hey it’s a shame about that man on TV being murdered, right?” Berate her until she fucking cries.
America is becoming a Nazi bar and it’s time to kick them all the fuck out!
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What your clients are conservative the party of family values. How can they be.
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Teachers, just like every American, should be able to say what they want in their off time, especially politically. This is just another disgusting move by our country.
Canadian nurse was fired for anti trans post in her off time. It’s a bigger problem than people might think. Maybe the solution is stop posting online? I don’t know. Punishment for peoples personal opinions on the personal time/accounts is pretty dystopian.
Having a political opinion and hate speech are two different things. Teachers calling for deaths and nurses calling for the elimination of human beings rights should be subjected to scrutiny.
This is not a black and white issue.
I agree with you we should error on the side of caution and it is dystopian that something you say in a forum away from your job could cause you to lose it. What a strange world we live in.
I never said that it was hate speech, people don’t have to like minority groups if they don’t agree with them.
I said it on purpose because I knew where you were going. Not liking a minority group just because they exist is wrong and hateful.
You can post her message here and we can talk about it. Maybe she is just misinformed or it was taken out of context. I am curious now.
It’s not wrong, it’s wrong to discriminate against them because of it. You cannot force people to accept things they don’t agree with for what ever their reason.
Your not a bad person because your anti minority, your a bad person if you don’t treat them like human beings.
You saying that as long as someone does not act on their discrimination then it is okay to discriminate, just in their mind? I think this goes without saying, but I agree. We are not going to police people’s thoughts (don’t give Elon any ideas).
However being human beings, I would also argue that this is practically impossible. If a person discriminates against a minority in their mind they will do this in real life. While there may be some people who have the mental will power to accomplish this, the majority do not.
This is why we have social pressure against people who promote hateful messages. Especially if these hateful messages are directed at minorities. This is because it creates a discriminatory environment where they can’t coexist in.
So while I do agree with your thought experiment, I don’t think it has any practical application.
I may be reading between the lines here, but I am guessing you or someone you know holds anti-minority beliefs. We often struggle with trying to explain our or others irrational beliefs.
I do think it’s a difficult thing for most to do which is a big problem.
Given that all humans have a natural right to life, saying that a minority group shouldn’t exist because of who/what they are is literally the opposite of treating them as human beings. It’s hate speech, period.
Who said that they don’t have a right to exist? I don’t agree with the entire construct of religion or anything else to do with it. But I don’t act or say that they don’t have right to exist.
Canadian nurse was fired for anti trans post in her off time.
Teacher -> personal opinion on politics = no intersection between job and statement. Nurse -> personal opinion on somebody else’s health and body autonomy = huge intersection between statement and job.
Pretending to not see the difference only makes you look worse, and an eight year old child would be able to break the argument using nothing but a sharpie and a piece of paper.
🤦🏻♂️ nope. The same rights apply to all, or none. Your personal options are yours regardless of your profession. Your don’t bring your personal problems to work, or your opinions. I guess if old people bother me, I shouldn’t ever be allowed to work in a retirement home? There’s a separation between your job and your personal life regardless of what they are or “how they could intersect”. If you can’t keep them separate, then there’s a problem.
Keep sniffing those sharpies.
I guess if old people bother me, I shouldn’t ever be allowed to work in a retirement home
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Free speech, only if you are Charlie Kirk
I’m pretty sure he ended up paying for his
Lol this is a trial run for Trump’s death. It won’t prevent us from celebrating. Fuck em.
“It has been brought to my attention that some Florida educators have posted despicable comments on social media regarding the horrific assassination of Charlie Kirk,” said the memo, signed by Florida education Commissioner Anastasios Kamoutsas. “I will be conducting an investigation of every educator who engages in this vile, sanctionable behavior.”
Oh shut the fuck up, you fucking chode. Please, kindly, go fuck yourself, loser.
Most of the teachers, under threat of unemployment, are from the fucking Red Run neo-Nazi Oblasts. The Blue States should offer them employment.
they’re welcome to apply with all the other pink slipped blue state teachers in the blue states
As an adjunct myself, wanted to see how widespread it is but this doesn’t seem to be. We’re usually first on the chopping block, but a dozen firings isn’t very many overall when there’s thousands of people teaching. I think similar happened when we celebrated Luigi, too, and both are pretty popular opinions with students.
Still, always be mindful of your online footprint and what you say in front of students in particular. You’re dealing with whole groups, so even if it’s a 90% popular opinion, you’ll get one asshole who may report you anyway. That includes religion, too, which is especially tricky when you’re an atheist teaching psychology and have to address shit regarding free will, evolution and why we have guilt and such.
But hey, we’re pretty fucking free to say what we want on Lemmy, it’s so obscure that I’m not even sure the government watches it.
That’s a whole lot of easy lawsuits.
better see some successful wrongful termination suits in the news
“Land of the free.”
Suuuuuuure…
I can smell liberty from here…
when there’s a school shooting, it’s always a tragedy. when someone dies in a school shooting, it traumatizes people ∴ it’s a tragedy. when the target of a school shooting is not a child, we get to breathe a sigh of relief. gonna be honest.
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These teachers probally know better than the rest of us just how pervasive his content and similar content is.
