Part 2: if you were the parent, would you feel it would be ethical to keep them alive?

  • OhVenus_Baby@lemmy.ml
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    14 days ago

    As someone with half that list of health issues. I struggle everyday. Most people even family do not care they can leave, go eat, live life. I cannot. Nobody cares until it’s them. They will never understand, have the compassion, empathy, respect to even try to help you, not even to clean up after themselves for things that make you sick, (gluten issues and they leaves pizza crumbs and greasy pans all over counters and stove). Plenty of sorries to help their emotions feel better though. Nothing for you though. Not money to help with medical things. Not care to keep themselves in order. People do the bare minimum and the world is fine with it.

    I don’t want to live like that, not as a parent, myself, or my family members. Shits hard. I don’t want to die or be dead so I’m not looking to OFF myself but fuck its hard to get through each day. It takes a solid, hard headed, self disciplined, never give up attitude to live like this. Yet you still fail to thrive and have any chance of health.

  • AstroLightz@lemmy.world
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    13 days ago

    Part 1: No, that’s worse than death.

    Part 2: Not my choice. It would be up to my kid. If they’re in a state where they cannot make a choice, then I would put them out of their misery, because the alternative would be worse for them.

      • JokeDeity@sh.itjust.works
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        12 days ago

        I don’t mean to argue or be rude or ungrateful to your intentions, but is it not greedy and selfish to expect someone to stay alive for your pleasure? Obviously we’re Internet strangers, we probably won’t talk again outside of this thread, but even when family or acquaintances (not sure I have any real friends anymore) tell me that, it feels like they only say that because it’s what society expects them to say. They aren’t there for me when I’m in need or feel helpless, they can’t change the fact that every waking moment I feel miserable and worthless, so to me it just seems like they’re being selfish to say I need to stick around for them. If I was important enough to need to be alive, why don’t any of them ever reach out to me or check in on me or ask to hang out or anything? They only come out of the woodwork when I’m ready to end it all to chime in with paper thin commentary like this.

        😕

        • funkless_eck@sh.itjust.works
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          12 days ago

          You have a mental health issue that no one on here can solve.

          I say this because I spent years in the same place, on the edge of ending my own life. I had a pact with myself that I wouldn’t let myself live another 10 years. That was 12 years ago.

          You are depressed. But you can make progress. All of the things that everyone says are the ways out of depression do work - they just don’t work overnight, and they don’t all work all the time - sometimes it’s medication, sometimes it’s quitting booze, sometimes it’s sleeping 8 hours. Sometimes it’s none for a little while and things are bad. It’s a process. But eventually you make progress.

          Wishing the best for you.

          • manuallybreathing@lemmy.ml
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            Medication, learning to look after myself better, and finding things in life I do enjoy, have really helped my depression. It’s still a struggle and I’m still improving.

            I’ve had a really hard week, it’s Sunday today and I laid on the couch reading a novel for about 8 hours (with breaks). I feel a lot better today than I did yesterday.

            your comment is a breath of fresh air.

        • Victor@lemmy.world
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          12 days ago

          Do you want to hang out with them?

          It’s a two-way street. They can’t be the only ones to make contact. You have to make an effort as well. Maybe you have.

          If they tell you they care, I believe that’s the truth. But it’s exhausting being the only one to maintain a relationship. Trust me as someone who loves my friends and family but I am suffering the consequences of not having the energy to make almost any contact, and thus losing a lot of my relationships. I’d love to be closer with my brothers but it’s too much in life right now and forever to make the calls. They used to call me, now they don’t, because I never reciprocated. Even though we love to hang out when visiting each other’s cities.

          I don’t know your situation at all, but I’m telling you that I want you to live, not for my sake or my selfish reasons (I obviously don’t know you and have zero attachments), but because I want you to feel important, because living should make you feel that way. I want this for you simply because I have empathy and sympathy. That’s it. Same as your circle of friends and family probably as well.

          I want you to live, love, and find happiness. 🙂

  • Vex_Detrause@lemmy.ca
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    If I knew about it and it’s not like an overnight change I think I will try to thrive. Most of that are manageable with some support. Imagine the brownie points I can have.

    Also! I’ll learn how to wheelie.

    If I’m the parent I’ll try to give them the best life. If it’s still unbearable for them then I’ll support them whatever they decide. Canada has MAID(medical assisted in dying).

  • TheLeadenSea@sh.itjust.works
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    14 days ago

    No. My main reason for wanting to live as is is so I can improve the world for others, and in that situation I’d just be a drain on society, and also suffering.

    If I was a parent I would not make decisions for my child, assuming they are capable of making decisions, it’s not my choice whether they should live or die. By the same token, I wouldn’t bring then into the world in the first place, however, as they cannot provide consent to live.