Morons.

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      I mean it’s not like there was a concrete example of him promising to drain the swamp and shown concrete proof of his results before, how could they have known…

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    My peers are not your rich country club conservatives. They are scrappy guys who liked Trump because he wasn’t polished or predictable. To them, he was a rebel outsider who would fight “the swamp” with all he had. I remember heated lunchroom debates where they’d argue about whether or not he could truly upend our system and its backers.

    What a bunch of fucking losers.

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      It is weird because I have a similar scenario, but they voted for Trump because they’re all playing entirely within framed, false choices.

      Like, one coworker voted full R because that’s what they’d always done like their parents and community always had and that was that. Always had, always will. Policy wasn’t even on the board.

      Another went for Trump because they genuine want to see government fail, even as a government worker, because they think the Federal Government is the Evil, and the States are the shining beacon of Freedom.

      Platitudes and messaging strategies meant nothing to them. Or at least it didn’t in 2016 or 2020. I don’t know how they went 2024 since I’d left that job.

      But since then every job site I go onto with active working class labor, its just MAGA hats and bumper stickers… and/or immigrant workers. Usually they’re being set against each other by company owners who enjoy both groups lacking unions and legal protections.

      The system that needs upending is the private company boss, not the government. The bosses are the ‘backers’ that need upending. Government is the last vestige where the public actually has a say.

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    I’m thinking if they saw Trump’s record and still voted for him, this isn’t gonna be the first time they get duped.

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      IMHO, people hyper fixated on the first couple years of Trump 1 where the economy was ok, he had experienced government officials putting up guardrails, and he coasting on what past administrations put in place.

      They thought Trump’s was blowing bow air and they thought they were going to get 2017 again.

      They are not getting 2017.

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          I wouldn’t be surprised if, given the rich disinformation landscape in America, covid was destined to be an utter shit show in the USA.

          Trump sure as shit didn’t help.

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    Weird, they were old enough to remember he didn’t live up to that campaign promise in his first term and just ended up swamping the drain even more. Did they think he was just going to do a total about face on his corruption in his second term?

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    This was all public knowledge before the election.

    But I guess you didn’t hear about that on TikTok and YouTube shorts.

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    What???

    They feel duped? We been knew Trump was in kahoots with him. He’s a sexual predator, a liar, and a shitty business man. I feel like saying you’ve been “duped” shifts blame. You were not duped, you just didn’t realize you’d have to suffer with the rest of us, LIKE WE FUCKING TOLD YOU. Admit you made a selfish, shitty decision and do better.

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      If their only source of media was manosphere podcasts or FOX News, I can absolutely believe they were duped. It still doesn’t absolve them of being regessive dumbasses that lack critical thinking skills, though.

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    Gen Z “men” voted for Trump because they’re racist sexist homophobic pieces of shit like their fathers are.

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        Elder millennial parents pioneered unparenting. They are insufferable and have the shittiest kids. The iPad generation is how I know them.

        Hopefully young men in this country wake up before the wars Republicans always start turn them into casualty statistics.

        Edit: I’m a younger parent than the people I’m bitching about.

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          You can’t even go out to a brewery in my area without a bunch of unparented kiddos running around your feet.

          Some of them even have their fucking birthdays at the brewery. Happy 8th, Stetson! Your first present this year is watching Mommy and Daddy get hammered and have public arguments.

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    My peers are not your rich country club conservatives. They are scrappy guys who liked Trump because he wasn’t polished or predictable. To them, he was a rebel outsider who would fight “the swamp” with all he had. I remember heated lunchroom debates where they’d argue about whether or not he could truly upend our system and its backers.

    The danger of neoliberals is they took money from trump and many just like him, and in return turned the Dem party into a pile of dog shit that didn’t actually help anyone that wasn’t wealthy

    That inevitably ends with the neoliberals middlemen getting cut out, and depressing Dem turnout so much Republicans win.

    The voting members of the DNC learned their lesson, they elected a chair with a proven track record of fair primaries and not standing in the way of the party’s own voters.

    That’s why billionaire owned media keeps telling Dem voters to give up on the DNC.

    The billionaires are scared of what happens when Dem voters get to pick their own politicians

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    Bullshit.
    They are trying to save face, however they’ll still vote for the dregs of humanity next time.

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    Gen Z. Too young to have experienced or lived through the Reagan era lies and the Bush lies along with the courting of right-wing fringe politics, from the religious wingnuts to the Tea Partiers. Let’s give conservatism another go! Surely it’ll work this time.

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      Can’t wait to hear about people too young to remember Trump voting against their interests in 20 years or so.

      Then again, maybe voting won’t be a thing in the USA at that point.

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        You’ll get the token candidate and Barron will get 98.5% of the vote. Occasional beatings and investigations into the precincts that get too high of an opposition vote %.

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    Gen Z was born 1996-2009, the oldest were 19 years old in 2016 when Trump campaigned to drain the swamp, which famously didnt work.

    Only racists and fascists voted for him after 2016. He was surprisingly open about all the terrible things that have happened so far in his second term while on the campaign trail. Although I never listened to his campaign ramblings (nor did a large chunk of his crowd), I didn’t see reports about the drain the swamp slogan after the first term.

    How did it take them 9 years to feel duped?

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      Only racists and fascists voted for him after 2016

      Not only. I know people who don’t fall into either of those groups. They were just gullible and stupid. Sure they were perhaps pressured by someone that falls into the first group (the bigots). Never underestimate peoples proclivity for stupidity.

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        If we were having this conversation in 2017, I’d agree with you. However Trump announced his run over 10 years ago and has been spewing more of the same shit since then. The excuse about not knowing isn’t really valid anymore. The morons who voted for Hitler are called fascist, just as were the bigots who fervently supporter him.