• CaptDust@sh.itjust.works
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    3 months ago

    Perhaps I’m not up to speed, but she was one of the first reps to call Israel’s actions a genocide. What gives?

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      3 months ago

      TL;DR is at MTG put forth a bill to remove funding for Israel’s missile defense system from the US budget. 429/435 House reps voted against it, including AOC, but then she made a very tone-deaf tweet basically saying “The bill was trying to remove funding for Israel’s ability to defend themselves from the people they’re genociding, of course I voted against it!” and it’s causing massive backlash against her.

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    3 months ago

    According to the UK, splashing something with paint to express a political opinion means that you are a terrorist.

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    “If you’re saying I voted for military funding, you are lying,” she wrote. “Drag me for my positions all you want, but lying about them doesn’t make you part of the ‘left.’ If you believe neo-Nazis are welcome and operating in good faith, you can have them.”

    She did though, right?

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      Like, the most devils advocate I can be for her vote is that she’s arguing that we shouldn’t take away their shield, we should take away their spear.

      To which… I still don’t see the logic. Because if you can block with one hand you’re free to stab with the other. If all you have is stabby implements, you got no way to deal with when they stab back.

      They’d be forced to be less aggressive, which they seem intent to be.

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        The best explanation I heard was that any funding at all, even if it’s for a “defensive” weapon, is still funding that makes doing their genocide easier.

        Another good take I heard is something along the lines of “they have healthcare and we don’t, they can fund their fucking iron dome themselves”.

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          3 months ago

          They’re not entitled to billions of dollars of our money every year. Especially when they continually treat Palestinians the way they do.

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            I agree entirely. I’m not against foreign aid as a concept at all, but I feel like it should be extremely conditional and the shit Israel is pulling in Palestine very much justifies pulling any and all aid we’re providing them. Children shouldn’t be dying, full stop.

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        3 months ago

        I’m tired of giving them fucking ANYTHING. They routinely brutalize a people they keep stateless. It would be bad enough not putting diplomatic pressure on them to try to stop let alone give them billions of our tax dollars every year.

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    3 months ago

    AOC supports what’s going on in Gaza? lol. Wut.

    She literally just voted against throwing more money at the Iron Dome.

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    My personal opinion she should have voted against funding the genocidal regime of Israel and this is the consequence 🤷

    They’re committing a genocide. No amount of wishy-washy Behavior about whether or not is real people deserve a right to defense matters anymore when they’ve systematically slaughtered 200,000 Palestinians and these defensive systems are enabling that Slaughter.

    Israel would be much less bold if they didn’t have their missile system to protect them from any retaliatory strikes like the strike on Iran.

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    3 months ago

    She literally voted to keep sending weapons to Israel. I dont think NYers should vote her out but FFS what’s going on when Margaret Taylor Green is the sympathetic rogue in Congress and AOC is the faithful party follower?

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      MTG isn’t a sympathetic rogue, she’s a isolationist nationalist at her core. That is, any money leaving the country = bad. Just happens to align with palestinian interests on this specific topic.

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      TBF, they were missiles for the Iron Dome defense system. They technically could be used offensively but I don’t think Israel is setup for that and it would be a very inefficient use of the tech.

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        3 months ago

        They could reduce the money they spent on offensive weapons and operations to buy the iron dome missiles.

        This argument only makes sense if Israel could not otherwise afford to defend itself.

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        Oh yeah, the Iron Dome “defense” system.

        The US taxpayer-funded missile system Israel uses to justify whatever offensive mission they want because they’ll never face retaliation. Regardless of your beliefs, the US has zero obligation to fund Bibi’s “defense,” arguably less so than their offense, and maybe a thinner security blanket would help them behave themselves.