And on top of that, there is a baseline cost to existing. Even basic shelter and average supplies would eat up a significant chunk of $50k. Spending $20M on a mansion and premium supplies is a drop in the bucket for somebody like Musk, yet that’s literally not something most of us would even dream of having because we could think of much better uses for $20M than just having upgraded shit with such diminishing returns for its cost.

For those in the back, this is also why it would be fucking stupid for a working class person to advocate for replacing income tax with increased sales tax. The wealthy don’t spend their money like you do, so they’re keeping even more of their hoards if they can successfully trick enough people into eradicating their income tax bill.

Lol what? Idk what “news” story you’re referencing, but it’s entirely irrelevant here. Wildly pivoting to an entirely different topic like this is irrefutable proof that you’re wrong, have realized you’re wrong, and refuse to confront and admit that you’re wrong. This thread is also old now, so nobody is even following this anymore anyway. As such, any further engagement would be a total waste of my time, so I’m out.

Good luck figuring shit out. I don’t need to convince you; the future will do that for me.

Lol okay, keep not understanding. You aren’t putting together that rescinding rights guaranteed to people means that all you need to do is claim that somebody is in that group that doesn’t get rights and they no longer have rights to things like a trial. I could literally just call you an illegal immigrant and you’d never get the opportunity to prove otherwise because you wouldn’t have the right to anymore.

As for the “ILLEGAL immigrants” thing, there’s a difference between civil offenses and criminal offenses. If you don’t even know that, then idk where you get off thinking you get to lecture anybody about how laws work. I’m sorry to say that you’re just flat out fucking wrong about this. Quit parroting what partisan media is spoon-feeding to you and look shit up for yourself. They benefit by convincing you to accept the bullshit that they’re selling. Be more skeptical. Any time you see something on media, ask yourself who is benefiting from the message they’re sending out.

Step 1: proclaim that immigrants no longer have rights.

Step 2: accuse person(s) you don’t like of being an immigrant.

Step 3: because immigrants don’t have rights, due process is not given.

Step 4: accuse person(s) of literally anything you feel like and order whatever sentence you decide is appropriate since an accusation is now also a conviction.

Are you getting it yet? Or will it have to target you specifically before you give a shit?

Dude was stunned that his adult son knew how to turn his computer back on after he turned it off. He’s too clueless to even know to be impressed by what half of lemmy users can do with tech lol.

If simple vandalism is punished so harshly, may as well go all in and torch the fucking things. There’s really no reason to stop at keying or painting anymore. Cosmetic damage is being punished as though they’re being rendered completely useless.

And edgelord baby billionaire should be happy since people will have to buy new cars, and surely his cars are gonna be their first choice, right?

People claim to support the Constitution and then say dumb shit like this. Try reading it. It’s not very long. It very clearly spells out that everybody in the country has rights, and that one of this rights is the right to peacefully protest. You’re even exercising that same right by arguing that they shouldn’t have these rights. But they do. And the second you try to take that away from them, what’s to stop a dictator on the other side from deciding that you don’t deserve the right to disagree with your government anymore, and so cops will be authorized to break into your home and kidnap you and deport you to a country you’ve never been to.

Any argument you have about how that isn’t the same thing is just going to cement how xenophobic and racist you are, so instead of bothering to reply, just sit with your thoughts and figure out what you can do differently moving forward to develop some amount of empathy and critical thinking skills to not advocate for things to get shitty for everybody in the long term. It’s possible to grow and improve, and I’m rooting for you.

What’s crazier is that you think that legal residents don’t deserve a first amendment right despite doing so much more to have earned rights than any person who just happened to have been born here did. Fuck outta here with that shitty-ass take. All rights for all Americans, full stop.

Unless 76% of Republicans makes up 18% of Americans, they got some ‘splainin’ to do.

“Presidents should obey court orders. But not my president, and not those court orders!”

Guys, what the fuck did you think was being discussed?

You probably already know, but in case you don’t, bring adapters for your phone charger and whatever else because their outlets are different. Their grid is 50Hz instead of 60Hz in the US.

Dude, you’re gonna get disappeared for typing r@!nb0w5 out where children could conceivably read it, assuming they are allowed to learn how to read in the first place still.

They’re on board with it because they think it will only happen to “those people” and will be appalled when it happens to themselves or at least their neighbors and friends and families.

I’ll be more excited to vote for Democrats if they can find their balls and start obstructing the fascist takeover. Was it not enough that they used ICE to kidnap and try to deport a legal resident for exercising his first amendment right?! Why the fuck shouldn’t we want a government shutdown when that’s the sort of thing this regime would use it for?!

Eggs.

Eggs.

Eggs.

True, but what does musk have left to give to trump? If he’s no longer useful, trump will have no problem dumping him and moving on. As soon as he thinks it’s more beneficial to turn on musk than it is to suck his dick, he will. Loyalty is one way for him.

I did. Months ago. I like eggs, but these people are fucking silly. I don’t know how anybody could care so much about egg prices that they helped this criminal idiot be a dictator, and they’re still whining instead of just refusing to buy eggs. How do these losers care this much about eggs but they don’t breathe a word about the cost of healthcare and prescription drugs?

I might be close to this upset if it were cheese that this were happening to. But eggs? Get a life.

Never thought I’d die fighting side by side with an elf.

I disagree. Having a platform in right wing echo chambers helps them considerably, but having reasonable, unhappy constituents publicly ask questions and get unsatisfying answers is disastrous for them. Right now, even lifelong conservative voters are asking how firing veterans and taking away any hope of retiring is helping them, and there’s really no believable answer to that. They’re starting to wake up because of these town halls. Anybody else there looking for answers hears that question and thinks “hey, yeah. I want to know that too” and then sees their cowardly rep offer panicked platitudes at best or abruptly end the town hall and run away at worst. They’re seeing the mask fracture and they’re getting a glimpse of the devil underneath.

It’s important to help these people understand that they’re not dumb; it’s just that their trust was violated. They believed conmen who actively sought to trick them. They were betrayed, and their betrayers got so comfortable and lazy that they pushed things that hurt so egregiously that it became obvious that there’s no real explanation beyond having knowingly lied to them for personal gain. I would love to say “we told you so” but they’re looking to be welcomed into a group, and smugness will just chase them toward the next predatory grift.

they couldn’t afford to pay enough people or actors to fake it.

The billionaire party can’t afford this, but apparently George Soros alone has no problem paying “democrat operatives”. If this were the case, wouldn’t these capitalist-worshiping losers be praising Soros for being such a brilliant billionaire capitalist?

How could anybody watch that interaction and believe that somebody needs to resign over that, but that person isn’t trump? Grandpa threw a temper tantrum and embarrassed the country in front of the entire world. He thinks he’s being strong, but he’s just gifting soft power to the EU when they pick up the check and look like big damn heroes.

The US is circling the drain and his dipshit cultists think this is a win. I fear that we’re already beyond the event horizon.