• Wren@lemmy.world
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        Oh I understand it just fine. Fine enough not to rely on polling to indicate anything. 538 isn’t accurate. Why is that up for debate?

        Odds can’t be wrong?

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          If I told you that you had a five in six chance to roll the dice and not roll a one, and then you rolled the dice and got a one, was what I told you wrong?

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            4 months ago

            Their odds predicted the past two elections wrong. What part of this is not getting through?

            There wasn’t a five in six chance for the candidates during either of the previous two elections. So I’m ignoring your example.

            They were wrong. Twice. Enough said.

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              4 months ago

              Here is a direct quote from 538:

              538’s forecast is based on a combination of polls and campaign “fundamentals,” such as economic conditions, state partisanship and incumbency. It’s not meant to “call” a winner, but rather to give you a sense of how likely each candidate is to win. Check out our methodology to learn exactly how we calculate these probabilities.

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              In 2016 they gave Hillary Clinton a 71.4 % chance of winning, and in 2020 they gave Joe Biden 89 % chance of winning. They are dealing in odds, not calls.

              And even if it isn’t getting through to you, how were they wrong in 2020?

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                4 months ago

                So based on their record over the past two years, it’s safe to say that whoever they assume to have the best odds of winning- it’s still going to be a whoever wins, wins.

                My point is… they’re not accurate.