This should be the sticking point to invoke the 25th. Officials need to be loud and make a stink about how Trump can’t tell fact from clear fiction and therefore cannot perform the duties of the office. Make the people of America see the image on the news everyday and make those on his side say out loud if they think it’s fake or real. Half of the masses will never be convinced that he lacks the morality to lead until they’re already in his camps. This is the earliest clear as day moment to act on that which cannot be held to subjective scrutiny or partisanship.
I’m not trying to defend the guy at all but those tattoos are not exclusively used by neo-nazis whatsoever and come from the Christian crusades originally. It’s the Jerusalem cross.
I will also say that that drusen cross has been used in some Neo-Nazi symbolism along the way so it’s not really a get out of jail free card either.
And a swastika represents “good fortune” and “well-being” in Hindu and other Indian cultures, concepts I would support, but I still wouldn’t get it tattooed on my body because of it’s other meanings.
If this guy is ignorant of the more recent meanings, that is just as troubling as if he knew their modern interpretations. If someone had elaborate Nazi imagery all over their body, and they were truly ignorant of the meanings, I would not think that they possessed the intelligence and judgement to supervise any people or projects.
Whether he knew about it or not, it’s a problem, and this guy is in charge of the Pentagon.
They’re not necessarily all “Neo-Nazi,” but they’re definitely Neo-Nazi adjacent.
There is nothing wrong with categorizing symbols that are used for white supremacy and ethnic cleansing crusades as being “Nazi”.
You don’t need to be a German soldier in the 1930s to be a Nazi. These types of “technically” corrections are not helpful and just play into doubt for people that don’t understand history. Like yourself apparently.
Modern day Nazis aren’t tattooing swastikas. They’re running our businesses and our country.
I love how all you folks just ignore what I said and have to make some sort of point about it. All I’m talking about it where those symbols come from and they aren’t widely used as modern NEO NAZI (not Nazi) symbolism. I hope nothing but the worst for Nazi’s, NeoNazi’s, and Pete Hegseth. Fuck those people.
The reason I said what I said is that disinformation is and has been dividing us and pitting us all against each other for years. And facts matter. Understanding the history of something doesn’t make you good or evil. It’s just wisdom.
if facts mattered we wouldnt be in this whole situation to begin with.
You are the one not understanding the history. You are adding doubt to symbols of white supremacy. You are pointing to the Christian equivalent of an ISIS flag and telling us it’s not “neo Nazi”.
No. You are putting words in my mouth. I didn’t say it wasn’t neo nazi at all, I said it wasn’t EXCLUSIVELY a nazi/neo-nazi symbol. Which is a fact.
You are dealing with fascist and saying exactly what fascist would say to deny their symbols of white supremacy.
It’s like pointing out that the swastika is a Hindu symbol when you see one tattooed on a fucking skin head Nazi punk. What point are you trying to make in that context?
Do you get how it’s fucking useless to do this? And only plays into the fascist narrative of doubt? You’re being helpful only to fascist.
You can be “technically correct” and still a fucking idiot for not understand what you’re doing.
Guy just comes over from reddit, uses reddit in his username, and proceeds to explain how the obviously nazi tattoos on the US Secretary of Defence are maybe not obviously nazi tattoos …
That’s because I READ AND LEARN ABOUT THE HISTORY OF THIS WORLD. Unlike most dumbasses that just read a headline and spew bullshit. I used reddit in my username to claim reddit is dead… so whatever the fuck that means. Go read a book.
If you read you’ve probably heard about a little something called “Occam’s razor”.
What’s the most probable answer, that a far right news host from a far right news channel is sporting his tattoos as a symbol of his love of history and the holy land, or that he’s sporting them because he’s a fucking nazi.
Nobody is denying your “history” of the symbol. We’re all well aware of the “larger story”. But it’s irrelevant because there’s an approximate 99.99999% probability that the guy who doesn’t understand the wider history of the cross is the guy that’s fucking wearing them.
You can write a thousand paragraphs “teaching people” all you want, but it’s totally irrelevant in this situation and you are only doing it in order to obfuscate the issue with meaningless nonsense.
I’m not intentionally obfuscating anything. I’m talking about the actual history of the symbols vs what people believe.
Read the room next time.
Read a book.
Only book i read has yo mom in the center
holy fuck 🤭
Yeah that’s about the level of maturity I expected. Good bye.
To me, this is equally as bad as Nazi symbology