Summary

The Democratic National Committee and two other party committees have sued Trump over Executive Order 14215, which claims authority to seize control of the Federal Elections Commission.

The lawsuit argues this violates federal law and threatens free elections.

The order also claims power over other agencies including the SEC, FTC, and NLRB.

Democrats contend this executive overreach contradicts constitutional principles and a century of Supreme Court precedent upholding Congress’s authority to insulate certain agencies from presidential control.

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    6 days ago

    Why so quick? I thought they would give him a few more terms before stepping in and trying literally anything…

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    A) He’s following China’s playbook. B) there is shit in the Project 2025 document that outlines this sorta play, here is a link to the summary.

    https://blog.ucsusa.org/liza-gordon-rogers/how-project-2025-would-endanger-our-elections/

    If we get to the point where, “For the safety of America, we won’t have an other election until the Democrats are stopped!”, I won’t be surprised. The GOP Does not plan on turning over control now that they have it.

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      Will, I don’t think anybody needs such drama, just that election will elect whom they need with 146% certainty. That’s a reference to the last Putin’s re-election.

      By the way, Putin’s re-elections have been proven mathematically to be falsifications through and through, say, Russian Central Election Committee obfuscated their “public” (scraping-protected webpages, say, dynamically shuffled fonts, with lines and lines of text) data, it was still deobfuscated, where they managed to hide moments of actually throwing in extra ballots, doing carusels or whatever, it was still mathematically proven that those dynamics do not belong to a normal election. But all those other violations were detected on scale in all recent elections in Russia.

      And nothing. Public outrage is not as powerful as mechanisms that react to it, if there’s no such - then no cinema.

      I think in US Trump is doing this the simple way, while in the EU both elections matter less and bureaucracies are already strong, but too regulated, so they want more surveillance and communications’ regulation - to be able to prevent those trying to use accountability mechanisms and organize from being heard, maybe even silently detaining\murdering such people, special services are always prepared for that kind of activity, and if there are no safe communications, a group of nations with institutions can turn into something as miserable as Russia very quickly, silently and conclusively.

      It’s a world tendency, I think. Even China before the last 10 years or so was, apparently (never been in China), a non-democratic state with some rule of law. Turkey was on the rise after a couple of decades of normal democracy after its last military dictatorship. In Iran people like Ahmadinejad were in visible posts and it seemed to be almost becoming democratic.

      In Russia in my childhood everyone around me just believed we’re past dictatorships and Putin will leave when his term ends.

      So - I think we live in an interesting time where the humanity once again learns the meanings of “common sense”, “natural law” and “human dignity”. And why sovcits are the wisest of political marginals.

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    6 days ago

    Reminder to all that despite its name the FEC does not control elections. Elections are controlled by the states.

    The FEC enforces campaign spending laws, but as we’ve all seen even lawbreakers can be elected president.

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    How long is it going to take Bernie, AOC et all to walk out of the Democratic Party and start their own?

    That’s the only solution. Hopefully some moderate Republicans do the same (create their own party), and finally America will have a democracy…

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      IMHO we won’t have one until we adopt a European style election where we have more than 2 viable parties and the electoral college is abolished.

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      How long is it going to take Bernie, AOC et all to walk out of the Democratic Party and start their own?

      Hopefully less than 2 years.

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    It’ll be nice to see SCOTUS rule against elections and then we can stop the charade.

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    They should have protected democracy when they had a majority. Protecting the filibuster was more important.

    The filibuster that they aren’t using against trump’s agenda.

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        Wait… you mean to tell me that all of this was done without congress?

        I thought the president needed congressional approval if he wanted to take a shit. Or was that just Biden?

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          Filibuster only works against certain legislative pushes… usually only stuff that needs 60 votes (instead of a simple majority) in the Senate.

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              Well, Senators Manchin and Sinema made sure nothing got done through then… which, when you realize Biden was in charge of the DNC during his administration… it’s a whole “they didn’t whip their legislators well enough” situation. Democrats are nearly world renowned for failing at that.

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      I really like the filibuster as a system, but only when its real, as in the senators have to talk the whole time. It makes it so they’re actually demonstrating their passion about a cause.

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      Hey, someone had to close that barn door. If we ever get another horse, it might leave too.

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    I didn’t even hear of this executive order. That just lays it out clearly all the steps he’s taking to seize power in the US undemocratically.

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    So they win, and give Krasnov a stern warning. Then what? Another lawsuit?

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      If they win, the FEC won’t take directions from Trump.

      This does not exclude the chance that Trump will provoke a more pointed confrontation. Or that Trump won’t eventually have to be removed by force. It’s just a basic thing to do - a road of 1000 steps starts with step 1.

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    Oh, yeah. Now they start doing something. “We might not get re-elected!” Some of that was your original inaction. Don’t hurt yourselves now that you’re affected…