Summary

The Trump administration has announced a new registry for undocumented immigrants, requiring them to self-report, provide fingerprints, and list their addresses.

Those who fail to comply could face fines or prosecution under the Immigration and Nationality Act.

The move aligns with the administration’s broader crackdown on illegal immigration and mass deportation plans.

Critics, including the National Immigration Law Center, warn the registry could be used to target individuals for deportation, drawing parallels to past government efforts to register noncitizens for national security purposes.

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    Hmm, I wonder what else started out as a registry…something that went down in history not long after the great depression.

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      It’s a safe bet IBM will jump at the chance to manage this one too.

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      Oh the federal government has been testing a registry for years now. This isn’t new. We have a sex offender registry and next we’re going to have an immigrant registry.

      But you did not speak up, because you were not a sex offender.

      Someone should write a poem about this …

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        We’ve had this law since World War 2. It hasn’t been used since and not for a lack of anti-immigrant sentiment. I want reporters to do their fucking job and report why the people who did things like Operation Wetback (the actual name, not my exaggeration) didn’t see fit to do this.

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        Doing AP’s job for them, I found the punishment. It’s 8 USC 1306 and yeah we can see why it hasn’t been used before. Six months in jail or 1,000 dollars fine for willfully failing to register. For which they essentially have to prove a thought crime, (you knew and did not register). Failure to update an existing registration is simply removal.

        So the law hasn’t been used because we already have the authority to remove unregistered immigrants and paying for their short jail stay is a ridiculous mismanagement of money.

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      I don’t know why, but your post response gave me this visual imagery of a man in a suit entering names on a list using an old-fashioned typewriter…

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    Failing to register will be considered a crime and being here illegally is already considered a crime. How are they planning to compel immigrants to comply?

    Complying with govt demands seems to go against any sense of self-preservation

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      Being here illegally is not generally a crime. It’s a civil infraction. Making it a crime to fail to register effectively criminalizes a previously legal issue.

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        I’m just going down the thread pointing this out, but the executive doesn’t get to make up crimes. I want to see where in the US Code this is punished criminally, not where there’s a toothless mandate to register. (That hasn’t been enforced in 85 years)

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        Okay, I finally found the punishment section. It’s 8 USC 1306 and yeah we can see why it hasn’t been used before. Six months in jail or 1,000 dollars fine for willfully failing to register. For which they essentially have to prove a thought crime, (you knew and did not register). Failure to update an existing registration is simply removal.

        So the law hasn’t been used because we already have the authority to remove unregistered immigrants and paying for their short jail stay is a ridiculous mismanagement of money.

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          So the law hasn’t been used because we already have the authority to remove unregistered immigrants and paying for their short jail stay is a ridiculous mismanagement of money.

          Good gods! So this administration is going to go hard on this method aren’t they?

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    I’m sure all of them will hurry up and report themselves to this new registry. Brilliant plan

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    This is because being undocumented is not a crime.

    This will create a crime that undocumented people can be charged with. Probably a second degree felony to guaranteed a prison sentence and allow regular law enforcement to be used to arrest these people.

    People should have seen this coming when they started making other lists, but sex offenders were an easy target. Who would speak up about such a list?

    By the time your group is on a list; for example, if Trump decides to enforce federal marijuana laws on blue states, then it’ll be far too late to say anything (you dirty criminal).

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      The executive doesn’t get to create crimes. I want to see where in the US code they’re drawing the idea for criminal punishment. The cited code doesn’t provide for any punishment. As read on it’s own it’s effectively toothless.

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      Okay, I finally found the punishment section. It’s 8 USC 1306 and yeah we can see why it hasn’t been used before. Six months in jail or 1,000 dollars fine for willfully failing to register. For which they essentially have to prove a thought crime, (you knew and did not register). Failure to update an existing registration is simply removal.

      So the law hasn’t been used because we already have the authority to remove unregistered immigrants and paying for their short jail stay is a ridiculous mismanagement of money.

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        Willfully failing to register doesn’t mean ‘you knew and did not register’, ignorance of the law isn’t a defense.

        Willfully failing to register means ‘you didn’t register and you were not in a coma or otherwise prevented to doing so by things outside of your control’.

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          Ignorance of the law is actually a defence in many situations. You’re thinking about the reasonable person standard, ignorance of things like lying for monetary gain isn’t a defence. Not knowing you’re supposed to fill out more paperwork through a language barrier is exactly where it’s a defence.

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      Probably buying shares in whatever company has the no-bid contract to build it.

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    So this is interesting. (In a bad way of course, because why can’t they do even one good thing?) But first there’s no specified punishment in the statute. And I’m having trouble finding a punishment listed anywhere for not registering. The executive can’t just make up an authority to punish people.

    Then there’s the fact that this law hasn’t been used since World War 2. Not even the 1950’s red scare tried to use it. It’s very likely this law was meant to be used in complement with extraordinary powers relating to World War 2. Powers the government hasn’t had access to since then.

    Okay, I finally found the punishment section. It’s 8 USC 1306 and yeah we can see why it hasn’t been used before. Six months in jail or 1,000 dollars fine for willfully failing to register. For which they essentially have to prove a thought crime, (you knew and did not register). Failure to update an existing registration is simply removal.

    So the law hasn’t been used because we already have the authority to remove unregistered immigrants and paying for their short jail stay is a ridiculous mismanagement of money.