How a culture of dehumanization and denial keeps ICE and Border Patrol personnel “at war with an enemy that does not fight back.”

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    I’ve worked with a lot of Latinos and I noticed a couple of things. They all seem to hold the same low regard for Mexicans and Cubans think they’re better than all the rest. There are exceptions, of course, but this was the general trend I saw.

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      The Cubans you run into are the children of the aristocratic fucks that got chased out of Cuba… so that explains that. And maybe there’s a racial component there (since whiteness and aristocracy are linked). Many Latinos are absolutely blind to their internalized racism and get immediately offended if you bring it up.

      I honestly don’t know where the anti-Mexican sentiment comes from, but I heard it from an Ecuadoran–call me a [slur], call me a [slur], but don’t call me Mexican.

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        I’ve been told the Mexicans are seen as hicks, mainly because of their music and dress, especially “el grito” which is the characteristic shouting heard in Mexican music.

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          19 hours ago

          That sounds more like post hoc justification than a cause, tbh. I don’t know that Mexico has a monopoly on rednecks.

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            I agree. Drive 20 miles outside of any metro area in the world and the density of hicks increases.

            But I will grant that Mexican music is often considered an acquired taste.

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              Mexican music is incredibly diverse. I like old-school folk so Chavela Vargas (born Costa Rican but “Mexicans are born wherever they damn well want”) is my jam. Natalia LaFourcade also is great, once she stopped trying to be a teeny bopper. Julieta Venegas … there’s some more but I’d have to log into Deezer to remember their names.

              That said, this is semi-nichey stuff; there’s an oppressively homogenous vaquero music (ranchero?), of which the only good thing I can say is that it is not reggaeton.

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                  If it helps it’s the professionalization of vaca, or cow–cowboy.

                  Met a relationship-starved Mexican woman on a language exchange app (a common affliction for the venue) and she was so sick of dating vaqueros, every one of them in tight jeans with a big buckle, western shit, and cowboy hat…

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                Meanwhile, I’m white af and love rolling down the street bumping Nortec (electro Norteñas) once in a while. Hilariously fun music. But yeah, it’s a weird take on a weird genre of campy music rooted in polka.

                I think classic ranchera is hard to hate (i.e. Vicente Fernandez)

                I also quite like Corridos Tumbados despite the controversy and think most people can get into that.

                Mexican cumbia isn’t quite as cool as Peruvian space cumbia, but there are some heavy hitters from Mexico.

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                  You make me want to make a post in the pirate forum about how to download albums without opening a port like you do in soulseek. Someone sent me a link to a web-based pirate–search, click the album, and download the whole thing, easy peasy, but I don’t even know what search term to use…