• Jiral@lemmy.world
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    7 hours ago

    False dichotomy if there ever was one. The small businesses that are burned down or destroyed or emptied don’t have anything to do with the oligarchs or pedophiles, they are often neighbours of the looters. What have they done to deserve that? Sorry, looting them doesn’t further any good cause, indeed, it is just serving the narrative of the opposing side.

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      2 hours ago

      The business have insurances, and actually don’t loose at being attacked. Many even benefit of the insurance to renew their shop in a more modern way ; it is at the point police sometimes even doubt the shop owner may have asked to be a target. It can also be a good time to burn accountancy documents when some were a problem, and destroy those stock of merchandises they knew they could not sell (so insurance pay for them).

      Yet for some it is a real moral pain to see their shop looted, of course…

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        That’s why all the small business owners are chiming in to cheer when their shops are torn to pieces and burned down!

        Do you even hear yourself XD

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          Most of the times they find it boring, yes. Yet do you know one that has really lost something after the death of Nahel? In my town most burnt shops reopened fast, renewed, and more attractive than before.

          And I can’t remember any casualties for shop owners, beside those who got caught trying to hide the bankruptie of their company as a riot burning (for insurance). Do you know some that had real (unsolved) problems because of riots?

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      5 hours ago

      Some things to remember:

      • Protests, riots are almost never monolithic and desperate people and local organized crime almost always takes advantage of the commotion.
      • There are already reports of Police antagonists stirring up commotion in these.
      • There is a very long history of far-right agitators trying to hijack and smear justifiable legitimate protests. Many examples from the 2020 BLM protests.
      • Foreign adversaries – notably Russia – almost always seizes on these and has a hand in stirring up division.

      So the fallacy is the assumption that the people committing the looting are the same people who originally set out to protest the following grievances:

      • Severe under-funding of schools.
      • Overcrowded classrooms and lack of air conditioning in excessively-hot climate.
      • Teacher shortages and schedules.

      To again reiterate, much of the time legitimate protests are hijacked by outside groups for their own ulterior motives (political optics, theft, etc.)

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      You moralizing about what is essentially an uncontrollable phenomenon, is serving the narrative of the opposing side. Nobody is in control of a riot by definition. All kinds of shit is gonna get fucked up. Focusing on individual incidents is falling into a trap that the ruling class lays for a credulous audience.

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        6 hours ago

        People plundering stores are very much in control of themselves, give me a break. I don’t blame anyone else for those actions than those who commit them.

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      I hate when people pull out this stupid straw man argument, “Think of the poor small businesses”. Small businesses in this country are all but non existent at this point, most of them have been forced to close their doors thanks to big chains like Walmart and Target. The closest we have to small businesses in most areas are franchisees from the big chain fast food restaurants.

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      7 hours ago

      I’m sure that guy that got kicked in the back of the head and has his video game store robbed gives a shit anymore and probably never will.

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        As much as I like the roof Koreans, they would get firebombed if they were in France, the reason they worked in America was because Americans are pussys and when legit confronted with violence, they piss their pants and run away.

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          Won’t speak for you, but I’m not getting close enough to toss a Molotov cocktail at a man in an elevated position with a long gun. 😬 (Seriously, reread your comment and think out how that would work IRL.)