China has a long history of espionage and theft to jumpstart many of their technologies someone else developed.
As they should.
Why should technology be gate-kept from less developed nations simply because they can’t afford it? That’s just a way to keep them underdeveloped, trapped in perpetual dependency on the more developed nations for so-called “intellectual property”
This is the way it was always done. The French paid English Gentlemen and nobility during industrialisation. Prussia had state sanctioned industry espionage. MR. Siemens himself went undercover as nobility to get information on machines.
The West discovered renewables and nuclear and then decided to keep burning coal and oil for the next 100 years like the absolute degenerates they are because they control the oil markets
The notion that China, or the US, or really anybody is committing theft by utilizing technological innovations, is what should be being discussed here. Individual innovations themselves were never made in a vacuum. Design, or information at large, is not something that can be privately owned. We have patents to give the right to seek super profits to the lucky individual that invents a new tech/process. An immensely lucky individual, who may or may not have actually done the labor to make the patent but is nonetheless the owner of the slip of paper, was born to live with enough resources, in the right places, and born before it was already invented, of course. The innovations that we enjoy today are a result of countless nameless people tinkering and improving, not just a few brilliantly outstanding inventors, who then somehow are a result of the success of a whole nation.
Okay, so you’re merely saying that they steal, but pretending that no one else does. That’s still Orientalism. There isn’t a powerful country in the world that isn’t engaged in industrial espionage. That’s just how industry works. It doesn’t make them scum.
As they should.
Why should technology be gate-kept from less developed nations simply because they can’t afford it? That’s just a way to keep them underdeveloped, trapped in perpetual dependency on the more developed nations for so-called “intellectual property”
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This is the way it was always done. The French paid English Gentlemen and nobility during industrialisation. Prussia had state sanctioned industry espionage. MR. Siemens himself went undercover as nobility to get information on machines.
Do you think the West invented all their solar panel tech? China is lightyears ahead.
Talking about stealing knowledge while current top Western tech is knowledge theft running onna GPU is peak cope.
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Do you think discovering the principle of something is the same as refining it? In that case, plants beat France.
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The West discovered renewables and nuclear and then decided to keep burning coal and oil for the next 100 years like the absolute degenerates they are because they control the oil markets
Do you think the only thing China has done is make them cheap?
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In 2025 a Chinese company broke records with its innovations in perovskite-silicon tandem solar panels.
The idea that Asians are only good at making things cheap is more Orientalism. Maybe try to not be so fucking racist?
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The notion that China, or the US, or really anybody is committing theft by utilizing technological innovations, is what should be being discussed here. Individual innovations themselves were never made in a vacuum. Design, or information at large, is not something that can be privately owned. We have patents to give the right to seek super profits to the lucky individual that invents a new tech/process. An immensely lucky individual, who may or may not have actually done the labor to make the patent but is nonetheless the owner of the slip of paper, was born to live with enough resources, in the right places, and born before it was already invented, of course. The innovations that we enjoy today are a result of countless nameless people tinkering and improving, not just a few brilliantly outstanding inventors, who then somehow are a result of the success of a whole nation.
Now you’re just being racist. They’re learning from other technology and then innovating it further, not just copying.
And if you don’t think the other countries you listed aren’t doing the same thing, you aren’t thinking about this seriously.
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The idea that Asians only steal and can’t invent anything is a pretty old Orientalist trope.
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Okay, so you’re merely saying that they steal, but pretending that no one else does. That’s still Orientalism. There isn’t a powerful country in the world that isn’t engaged in industrial espionage. That’s just how industry works. It doesn’t make them scum.
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