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kinther@lemmy.world to politics @lemmy.world · 3 months ago

"Trump is trying to collapse our economy": War on "woke" revealed as a war on all Americans

www.salon.com

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"Trump is trying to collapse our economy": War on "woke" revealed as a war on all Americans

www.salon.com

kinther@lemmy.world to politics @lemmy.world · 3 months ago
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    War on all Americans? Trump won the election and has good approval ratings.

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      30% is not good approval ratings.

      That’s less than the 34% he had when Biden took the Presidency from him.

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        Why are you looking at 2021? We have updated info from various pollsters.

        https://www.realclearpolling.com/polls/approval/donald-trump/approval-rating

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          January 20, 2025

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            I am not sure which exact number you were looking. Anyway, you want to look at multiple polls if it is there. I provided the link.

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              Updated Jan. 29, 2025, at 5:38 PM

              This is more accurate.

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                I think you meant this one.

                https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/approval/donald-trump/

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                  No.

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                    Why wouldn’t you look at the latest polls? Makes no sense to me.

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      So are the eggs cheap yet?

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        Blaming Trump for high egg prices 10 days after inauguration is not going to be a winning argument for the Democrats.

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          Is war on Ukraine ended? The nazi traitor filth said day one, did he not?

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            Are you going to point out the listings of promises he already accomplished?

            Looking at the overall performance, voters are satisfied.

            https://www.realclearpolling.com/polls/approval/donald-trump/approval-rating

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              Bruh, just look at this one poll. Just look. Egg prices don’t matter because of this one poll. Please look. Various pollsters. Please.

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                You always want to look at multiple polls if they are there.

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                  It’s that why you have only linked the one you like over and over?

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                    I didn’t pick one poll. I showed a list of like 5 polls.

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          It’s fair to blame him when he shuts down the CDC in the midst of an avian flu outbreak.

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            You are so funny. You get the timeline all wrong.

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      That doesn’t mean that what he’s doing is good for Americans, it just means Americans don’t understand the consequences or don’t care.

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        I have seen a lot of comments these days that voters are stupid, or something equivalent. I suppose that is all the Democrats got at this point.

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          But there are way, way more comments, posts, and articles about how he’s reneged on his promises & will continue to hurt people for the sake of hurting people… In the face of authoritarianism, you’re worried about decorum?

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            Based on his current approval rating, he is doing what he promised to do, which won him the election.

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              This is the most garbage logic. His approval rating does not directly equate to fulfilling promises. There can be cause and effect, but it’s not guaranteed especially when there’s so many factors that impact approval rating.

              Presidents get a post election bump. It has nothing to do with fuffiling policy promises. Hell, the bump began before he took office, so obviously it has little to do with him fulfilling promises. Trump had a bump his first term too. But guess what. Literally every other president, including Biden, had a better overall approval rating at the beginning of a term than trump ever has. Time will tell where his approval lands.

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                There is never going to be a perfect metric on fulfilling campaign promises. The approval rating is a very good metric for that. Did someone said this is perfect metric?

                Trump was acting more like the sitting president than Biden between election and inauguration. Of course that can result in a bump. For example, the Israel Hamas ceasefire. Trump was critical in getting that deal done even though he was not a sitting president at the time.

                Your logic was very bad.

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                  I didn’t say it wasn’t even and imperfect metric. I’m saying that its almost no metric. Perhaps even evidence of poor performance to be honest. Because the approval bump is a repeatable and measurable phenomenon we observe after every election that has 0 to do with presidential policy or action. And his post election approval bump is the second worst in history, only below his own poor approval bump from his first term.

                  Information is relative to the environment and circumstances. Is doesn’t exist in a vacuum.

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                    First of all, to say approval rating has zero to do with action, I disagree completely. That is just ridiculous.

                    Second, Trump starts his second term. I don’t think an election bump in second term is typically that significant if anything. Bush Jr’s second term approval at realclearpoltics was at around +5, and that is in line with what Trump is getting right now. There wasn’t much of a post election bump for Bush Jr.

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          American voters are stupid, that’s what conservative politicians have been working towards with 50 years of education budget cuts.

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            This is a losing argument for Democrats.

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              You seem to think I’m American. That’s cute.

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                Wrong. I didn’t think that. Perhaps reread what I wrote.

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      Good approval ratings with who? From what I’ve seen his approval ratings with Americans are almost as terrible as they were last time.

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        Various pollsters.

        https://www.realclearpolling.com/polls/approval/donald-trump/approval-rating

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