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    23 hours ago

    Once again, since you keep ignoring the elephant in the room, the only reason Iran is able to engage in international solidarity is because of the solidarity Russia and China have with Iran providing them with weapons, technology, economic aid, and diplomatic support. Evidently the concept of any support outside direct military action is just too difficult for you to comprehend.

    In exchange for oil and other goods and to improve their own geopolitical position. Not out of international solidarity.

    Let’s change the question because you don’t seem to understand it: Why is Iran helping Palestine?

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      22 hours ago

      The fact that it’s not pure altruism isn’t the gotcha you seem to think it is. And of course, Iran isn’t helping Palestine out of pure altruism either. Why do you think Iran just sat by while the genocide was happening for over a year. They could’ve closed Hormuz any time. The reason they are taking action now is because they’re being threatened by the empire and its outpost in Israel. Iran is also trying to improve its position in the region. It’s frankly incredible that you don’t understand this.

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        14 hours ago

        If Iran would want to improve its position they would abandon Palestine and Lebanon. Iran is not even on the Greater Israel map they are completely safe. Iran could get rid of its sanctions simply by abandoning international solidarity and recognize Israel and become UAE2.0

        Iran has supported Palestine through weapons for Hamas, Hezbollah and the Houthis. That’s why Israel attacked Iran. And why the US is not attacking China over Cuba. China And Russia aren’t even breaking a simple oil blockade let alone supply it weapons USSR style.

        Iran is closing Hormuz over Palestine and Lebanon. If they promised to stop supporting the resistance and recognize Israel the bombing would stop instantly and they would get Hormuz too.

        Iran’s leader gave his life for international solidarity. Iran had prepared for a NATO ground invasion for decades for supporting Palestine. With or without minor amounts of external support.

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          9 hours ago

          No, abandoning Palestine and Lebanon would absolutely not improve their position because it would just means they would be surrounded by US/Israeli proxies. Iran is fighting for the same reason Russia is fighting. They realize that this is existential for their sovereignty.

          Also, I guess you slept through the whole tariff war if you think the US isn’t attacking China. Meanwhile, China, just like Russia and Iran, has to deal with US proxies being set up all over Asia. I know this is hard for you to wrap your head around, but the world is a bit bigger than Cuba and Palestine.

          Iran is closing Hormuz to protect its own interests first and foremost. Israel is the biggest threat to Iran in the region, and they have the upper hand now, so they are obviously using it.

          Meanwhile, NATO ground invasion is an absurd idea, and everybody knows it. If you want to see a country fighting NATO fascists directly that what Russia’s been doing for the past 4 years. Weird how you don’t mention that anywhere. What western backed fascists were trying to do in Donbas is exactly what Israel is doing in Palestine right now. The reason that didn’t happen was Russia.

          You have a myopic view of the world, and you really have to start broadening it and looking at the world as an interconnected place instead of cherry picking individual conflicts to obsess over. The broader war is between the west and the Global South represented by G7 and BRICS. All these conflicts are connected to each other and the economic war that’s happening. These aren’t isolated incidents and individual countries duking it out.

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            3 hours ago

            No, abandoning Palestine and Lebanon would absolutely not improve their position because it would just means they would be surrounded by US/Israeli proxies

            And in return lift Iranian sanctions and receive massive economic prosperity. Do you even understand how much Iran is sacrificing for solidarity? The entire region is collaborating with the US and Israel because that’s way more profitable.

            And Iran isn’t saying Palestine belongs to them like Russia does for the Donbas. Nor is Palestine right nextdoor to Iran. Iran could easily just become UAE2.0 if they wanted to sell out. There’s currently a political struggle in Iran between the Iranian moderates who want to cave and the “hardliners” who want to keep showing international solidarity. Iran certainly isn’t taking a pragmatic action. Meanwhile Russia and China won’t even veto a resolution at the UN. It’s ideological, not self-interest driven.

            Cuba is a prime example itself. They sent fighters to free South Africa, not to gain something from it but to advance Socialism globally. It was Cubans that died protecting Maduro. Cuba sent doctors all over the world. Che was a massive proponent of international solidarity. And it’s precisely because of that that it hurts to see Cuba not receive the amount of international support it needs and Cuba now needs to abandon some of their most defining policies.

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              3 hours ago

              And in return lift Iranian sanctions and receive massive economic prosperity.

              That would obviously not happen. The US openly states that it wants to destroy Iran, and it has literally been assassinating their leaders. The only way the US would accept Iran is as a vassal state like Syria which would obviously mean purges of everyone currently in power. I really have a hard time believing that even you can’t understand something so basic, so I have to wonder why you would write something that’s obviously false.

              Palestine doesn’t need to be next door to Iran or belong to them. They’re part of the axis of resistance weakening their main enemy which is Israel. Again, even a child should be able to understand why abandoning your allies would be a bad look. The reason Yemen, Hezbollah, and Iraqi militias are aligned with Iran is because they all have a common cause. If Iran starts abandoning allies, then the whole coalition would fall apart and they would all be taken out one by one.

              Meanwhile, who gives a fuck about resolutions at the UN? There are plenty of resolutions on Gaza at the UN, show me what they achieve materially? What Russia and China do is provide weapons and economic aid. The fact that you have your head so far up your own ass that you can’t even acknowledge this is phenomenal.

              Yes, Cuba is a prime fucking example of Russia and China providing material support. Different countries support each other in different ways. I don’t see you grabbing a gun and going to fight in Cuba either. You’re sitting comfortably at home while shitposting here. Grow the fuck up.

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                2 hours ago

                Sure and the Gulf doesn’t exist.

                You’re sitting comfortably at home while shitposting here. Grow the fuck up.

                Look at you fighting in the trenches.