• CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world
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    4 days ago

    Please, please, please siphon off many, many conservatives from the Republican Party and sap all of their power. I’d love to see the New Whigs battle the Old Whigs while the Democratic Party takes all the wins…

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        3 days ago

        As opposed to all the incentive to change they have right now while losing to the worst iteration of the Republican party of the last century?

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          3 days ago

          Well, there have been a few signs in the recent primaries that they should move a bit to the left of they want to follow their constituents. Whether they do remains to be seen, but they won’t need to if the right is divided.

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            3 days ago

            Keep in mind that that pressure is coming from outside the Democratic party. Internal structures are pushing back very hard on that transition

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    3 days ago

    What the libs celebrating this don’t understand is that a third party doesn’t have to be treated with complete hostility. Tucker’s party could very well wind up endorsing a Republican candidate, in exchange for that candidate giving them some policy concessions (or bribing them with dark money and/or cabinet positions, of course). This is how third parties can wield the threat of being a spoiler as leverage to get policy they want, and why a right-wing third party isn’t automatically advantageous to the Democrats.

    What he’s probably gonna do is to champion whatever wedge issue is in the zeitgeist that neither major party is responding to at all (a given), and he’s going to get the Republicans to give him a small, symbolic, and ultimately meaningless concession on that point, which will lead people concerned about that issue into the Republican party.

    If the Democrats were capable of viewing the left with anything short of outright contempt and hostility for daring to question their absolute authority, if they actually responded to democratic pressure from below instead of plugging their ears and giving us nothing but tear gas, then maybe we wouldn’t be in the situation we’re in now, and maybe we wouldn’t have to worry as much about that happening in the future. But it’s a given that people will be more frustrated than ever with the duoparty in the next election and it’s also a given that the Democrats will absolutely refuse to budge or adapt at all, and so there’s plenty of room for Tucker to sweep up voters by actually engaging with their concerns (dishonestly of course).

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    4 days ago

    I would love to see it, seriously. Just like how I would love to see the growth of the Green Party, a Communist party, a Socialist Democrats party, a Christian Nationalist party, and a Nazi party in America.

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      4 days ago

      It would actually be very good news because it would split the right-wing vote. But I doubt it will actually happen.

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            I mean they can split the vote just like the Reform Party did.

            Yeah, these guys would probably be better off pairing up with something like the Constitution Party (or some other fringe winger party that’s been kicking around for a while) and take that over, but with the egos we are dealing with, I don’t think it’s likely.

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      It was created after the collapse of the Golden State Party, a party founded by a group called Freedom 14, after its leader was exposed as a felon.

      Is this what’s going to happen to the Republican party?