“CPS will continue to protect our students and their families in alignment with the Illinois TRUST Act and Chicago’s Welcoming City Ordinance,” one school official said.

Chicago Teachers Union President Stacy Davis Gates called the situation “unprecedented” at a news conference Friday afternoon.

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      Yeah, but this is surely also to intimidate folks from sending the to public schools.

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        Oh 100% - that’s why clearly rejecting it is so important. If the folks at your local school clearly announce “we don’t fuck with Trump’s terrorism bullshit” then it makes it less likely that parents (even those with residency or citizenship) will be afraid to let their kids attend.

        I think the whole announcement that the admin will raid schools is a pretty transparent attempt to make non-white people voluntarily stop sending their kids to school.

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        That’s overly reductive. There are people working at ICE because they see how racist and authoritarian it is and they want to be part of changing that system.

        I’ll happily admit that ICE is pretty fucking attractive to racist authoritatians but leaning too far into generalizations will give you a very black and white view of the world that doesn’t reflect reality.

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          There are also people that work for the police because they want to positively change their community. There’s a reason that ACAB is still true, despite that fact.

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          Nope. ICE it’s a byproduct of 9/11, and is racism and xenophobia wrapped in a burning flag of patriotism.

          F U C K
          ICE

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            It absolutely was created out of pure racism and xenophobia but you’re wrong if you think people haven’t joined it to try and make it better.

            I also agree it’d be wonderful if ICE simply didn’t exist. It’s mandate for existence is rotten to the core.

            That still doesn’t mean it is entirely composed of people who want to perpetuate that harm. The view you’re supporting is the same one that discourages people from getting into politics because politicians are all useless. There’s a system and it does harm - some people join the system to try and reduce the harm it does.

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              That still doesn’t mean it is entirely composed of people who want to perpetuate that harm.

              The vanishingly small number who join for non-malicious reasons and either converted into racist bullies, or are driven out, just like honest cops in a department that’s corrupt or racist.

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              Joining the Nazi party to change it from within still involves joining the Nazi party.

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                You bring up an interesting point. So do you think Schindler was wrong to act how he did?

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                  That’s a fair point, but you could also consider his factory still contributed to the war effort.

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          I’m married to someone who was on a green card for a long time. Believe me when I say that in over 90% of our encounters with ICE, we were treated with arrogance and hostility. And she’s a hardworking professional who toes the line and complies with every rule, and her case couldn’t have been simple: spouse of a native-born American. It didn’t matter to those swine. They were there because they know they could bully people who couldn’t answer back.

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      You know how people get jaded at work towards customers at jobs like stores and support centers? I bet the jaded people at ICE are real fun to be around.

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      Probably a decent chunk… but the more dangerous portion is those who legitimately believe in the system. Under a normal administration we’d rightfully object to a public servant that refused to carry out their duties.

      If a Dem had just won and said “We’re going to make sure asylum seekers are all given temporary accommodations in motels until we can process them” and some conservation asshat said “Yer nuh muh presuden” and simply refused to carry out the order we’d rightfully be pissed off that some individual administrator was trying to singlehandedly undermine the electoral will.

      This is a fucking complex situation because most people working in government have an understanding of this (which is normally good) and just want to make the implementation of policies that they may not fully agree with as efficient and kind as possible.

      Much like MLK’s sentiment, the majority of atrocities carried out under the Trump admin will be done by relatively unobjectionable people who are just trying to locally minimize harm. Someone liberal might stay in ICE and comply with these orders because they believe they can take small actions to make the implementation of school raids less cruel and, genuinely, they’re probably right.

      We’re in a weird fucking situation and we’re all about to learn how we’d have acted if we lived in 1930s Germany. Will we be the cruel ideologue who actively causes harm? Will we resign in protest and become essentially irrelevant? Will we try to work within the system to prevent small cruelties while supporting large cruelties (i.e. Schindler)? Will we apathetically continue to support the economic system of cruelty? Etc…

      This is going to be a cruel four years.

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    It was the secret service, not ICE:

    The U.S. Secret Service told the I-Team they approached a South Side school Friday. Chicago Public Schools officials had initially said the agents were from U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement.

    But nonetheless, the school took the correct and appropriate action.

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    I think we are at the beginnings of a potential split up if the country. Shits gonna get crazy before it gets better. I hate this timeline.

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      The divide between me and family members is already setting records. It’s because Trump opened the flood gates on day one, complete with his staff Seig Heil saluting to a cheering crowd.

      So yes… It will get bad. Despite the “landslide” victory Trump won, the reality is that he won by 1.5% of the popular vote. This leaves nearly every major city and over 75 million people that voted against him.

      Trump is acting like everyone supports him, but half the country actively tried to prevent him from winning… And we are not fucking happy about what he’s doing.

      He has both the senate and the house, and he’s already trying to do away with term limits. This is the perfect storm. It’s going to result in riots, unrest, and destabilization like this country has never seen before if the pacing doesn’t change.

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    States and localities will make the good chunk of the resistance. Make sure to pay attention to every single local election

    Multiple states have statewide and local elections this year

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    This was not an incident involving ICE if anyone here would bother to read beyond the headline

    CHICAGO (WLS) – The U.S. Secret Service told the I-Team they approached a South Side school Friday. Chicago Public Schools officials had initially said the agent or agents were from U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement.

    Secret Service said they were investigating a threat, and responded to a house. They said they were then told the person they wanted to talk to was at Hamline Elementary School, but they did not enter the school, the Secret Service told the I-Team.

    The threat the Secret Service was investigating was not immediately clear.

    CPS officials had claimed an ICE agent or agents were denied entry to the South Side elementary school Friday morning.

    ICE said this was not a U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement encounter.

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      That’s a lot less exciting. This is likely just a kid that made a credible threat to a current or former president then.