Basic salty tankie comment from the bootlicker instance. Just a bunch of sad submissives waiting for more powerful men to tell them what to think and do.
You can definitely tell the ml crowd are getting angrier as Russia’s loss in this stupid war becomes more and more apparent.
I don’t know why you think communists are submissive and simply want powerful people to tell us what to do. Communists want the working classes to control and direct society, not a tiny class of wealthy capitalists. I also don’t get what you mean by “Russia’s loss,” it’s a war of attrition and at this point, even if Kiev surrendered right now, they are facing immense population collapse and crisis and an unstable government.
Communists want the working classes to control and direct society
This never happened in the USSR though did it? The USSR was a dictatorship that brutalised the working classes. They are not some beacon of righteousness that we need to be referring back to, Soviet style “communism” is not what anyone seeking a more just world should be aspiring to.
There are other ways of delivering more horizontal power structures that would make society a better place for all. We do not need to be looking to a guy who lived 200 years ago for solutions today, anyone who critically looks at Marx’s ideas who isn’t a teenage boy in a Che Guevara t shirt knows his math and ideas do not stand up to scrutiny. Just as ridiculous as those who look to Adam Smith for guidance today. At least Marx fucked though, I never trust a man who doesn’t.
I also don’t get what you mean by “Russia’s loss,” it’s a war of attrition
I don’t know how you can’t see how this statement you made is an embarrassing loss for Russia. How the mighty have fallen.
they are facing immense population collapse and crisis and an unstable government. Russia doesn’t have the same problems.
This tells me you have never seen Russia’s population pyramid or understand the trajectory of Russia’s population. Demographics is destiny, worrying you can’t see that but then lying to themselves is a Russian national sport at this stage. At least you are the best in the world at something!
In terms of government stability, power in Ukraine has changed power peacefully several times now since Maidan. I have no concerns that they can do it again. Russia on the other hand has an aging dictator who has been at the helm for almost 30 years with no successor or succession plan in place. Putin currently exerts near total control over Russia, the power struggle following his exit, which will be in the next decade, will be enormous. Bend over and prepare for Balkanisation my submissive friend.
What a great summing up of an entire school of thought. Im sure you read most of marxist/communist literature. Damn Ill be surprised if you even opened capital to begin with.
also notice how you had to completely derail his point to USSR for a strawman. He just claimed what communists want. You didnt adress that bcause he clearly was right there
Damn Ill be surprised if you even opened capital to begin with
I assume you are referring to Das Kapital? It is essential college reading for any third level student. Marx should be everybody’s starting point in politics, when it is also your end point, as it is with most of your crowd, you run into serious problems.
Im sure you read most of marxist/communist literature
I’m a much bigger fan of Henry George, Progress and Poverty is a much better book in both writing and content.
also notice how you had to completely derail his point to USSR for a strawman
It was not a straw man, our entire conversation is about Russia and the article we are commenting on is also about Russia, in the context of our conversation how is it not relevant? Should I have referred to some other random successful communist state that actually followed the teaching of Marx perfectly? The point was what communists want and what happens in reality are two very different things. This clearly went over your head, don’t worry about it though buddy, I am used to it from your crowd.
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Average lib comment from the zionazi lib instance
Basic salty tankie comment from the bootlicker instance. Just a bunch of sad submissives waiting for more powerful men to tell them what to think and do.
You can definitely tell the ml crowd are getting angrier as Russia’s loss in this stupid war becomes more and more apparent.
I don’t know why you think communists are submissive and simply want powerful people to tell us what to do. Communists want the working classes to control and direct society, not a tiny class of wealthy capitalists. I also don’t get what you mean by “Russia’s loss,” it’s a war of attrition and at this point, even if Kiev surrendered right now, they are facing immense population collapse and crisis and an unstable government.
This never happened in the USSR though did it? The USSR was a dictatorship that brutalised the working classes. They are not some beacon of righteousness that we need to be referring back to, Soviet style “communism” is not what anyone seeking a more just world should be aspiring to.
There are other ways of delivering more horizontal power structures that would make society a better place for all. We do not need to be looking to a guy who lived 200 years ago for solutions today, anyone who critically looks at Marx’s ideas who isn’t a teenage boy in a Che Guevara t shirt knows his math and ideas do not stand up to scrutiny. Just as ridiculous as those who look to Adam Smith for guidance today. At least Marx fucked though, I never trust a man who doesn’t.
I don’t know how you can’t see how this statement you made is an embarrassing loss for Russia. How the mighty have fallen.
This tells me you have never seen Russia’s population pyramid or understand the trajectory of Russia’s population. Demographics is destiny, worrying you can’t see that but then lying to themselves is a Russian national sport at this stage. At least you are the best in the world at something!
In terms of government stability, power in Ukraine has changed power peacefully several times now since Maidan. I have no concerns that they can do it again. Russia on the other hand has an aging dictator who has been at the helm for almost 30 years with no successor or succession plan in place. Putin currently exerts near total control over Russia, the power struggle following his exit, which will be in the next decade, will be enormous. Bend over and prepare for Balkanisation my submissive friend.
What a great summing up of an entire school of thought. Im sure you read most of marxist/communist literature. Damn Ill be surprised if you even opened capital to begin with.
also notice how you had to completely derail his point to USSR for a strawman. He just claimed what communists want. You didnt adress that bcause he clearly was right there
I assume you are referring to Das Kapital? It is essential college reading for any third level student. Marx should be everybody’s starting point in politics, when it is also your end point, as it is with most of your crowd, you run into serious problems.
I’m a much bigger fan of Henry George, Progress and Poverty is a much better book in both writing and content.
It was not a straw man, our entire conversation is about Russia and the article we are commenting on is also about Russia, in the context of our conversation how is it not relevant? Should I have referred to some other random successful communist state that actually followed the teaching of Marx perfectly? The point was what communists want and what happens in reality are two very different things. This clearly went over your head, don’t worry about it though buddy, I am used to it from your crowd.