• UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world
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    16 hours ago

    I think Bernie should have ran Independent in 16’, '20, and '24 after the bullshit the Dem’s pulled.

    Christ, if Dems weren’t calling him a “stealth Trumper” before… I’m sorry, but Sanders simply wasn’t hard core enough to pull that off. The dude is a Democrat. The problem isn’t his liberal credentials nearly so much as the rest of the party being stealth Republicans. It’s very much a “Idk why I should run third-party when they’re the ones that suck”. Fucking Hillary should have launched a third party bid by the time Dems had finished fumbling the bag in 2024.

    I keep trying to think about who should run for President on the left in 2028

    The obvious answer is AOC.

    The pro-tier answer is JB Pritsker. Legit closest thing to an FDR quality candidate I’ve seen in my lifetime.

    The dream answer is just sneaking into a Pete Buttigieg campaign rally and having Mamdani hit him with a steel chair, then take over the thing whole cloth.

    The joke answer is Hasan Piker.

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      16 hours ago

      Okay apologies I should have been more specific. I meant in the context of our conversation, as in “Who could run 3rd party and win, if the Dems insist on a corpo-Dem and Republicans continue to be Republicans”…

      The obvious answer is AOC.

      I don’t think she could win as a 3rd party candidate and her political instincts are kinda shit.

      The pro-tier answer is JB Pritsker.

      This is a good answer but are they the kind of person looking to challenge establishment power?

      The dream answer is just sneaking into a Pete Buttigieg campaign rally and having Mamdani hit him with a steel chair, then take over the thing whole cloth.

      The joke answer is Hasan Piker.

      I want to live in that timeline. But here’s a curveball for you since this is the thread were in…

      What if, perhaps, it was the Jr. Senator from Maine who decided to run in 2028…

      Edit: realized this was a different post than I thought (I thought we were in the Mills thread). Not changing the text.

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        13 hours ago

        Who could run 3rd party and win, if the Dems insist on a corpo-Dem and Republicans continue to be Republicans

        Ah. That’s a harder question, since you need someone both credible with political insiders and popular with outsiders.

        I think any serious third party bid would come from the right, by way of a disgruntled conservative friendly to mega-donors trying an outside bid.

        Tucker Carlson is friendly enough with Elon Musk and has a large following independent of the GOP as an institution. He’s got potential.

        I could also see a high profile Crypto bro going for it. Justin Sun is a high profile contender. He’s got Andrew Yang energy.

        Both have a Trumpian path to victory, posing as outsiders will functioning as mega-donor insiders

        What if, perhaps, it was the Jr. Senator from Maine who decided to run in 2028…

        Idk if he’s got broad national appeal. Winning a plurality in Maine is very different than competing across California, Texas, and Florida.

        But I could see his endorsement powering an outside bid.

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          12 hours ago

          What if, perhaps, it was the Jr. Senator from Maine who decided to run in 2028…

          Idk if he’s got broad national appeal. Winning a plurality in Maine is very different than competing across California, Texas, and Florida.

          I’m just reminded of another Jr. senator who didn’t spend long in the seat, and who went on to take the presidency. Like, I genuinely think Platner is far more electable nationally than anyone we’ve discussed so far. He’s a progressive mind in a maga body. He walks like a chud, talks like a woke.

          On Tucker and the right, I think at least the call on Tucker running is spot on, for example, if Vance thinks he “owns” the MAGA movement because he got carried by DJT’s coat tails.