The actual quote that the tagline paraphrases:
“And so Tim has gone from making games to making one game, spending all his time doing that and trying to make as much money as possible,” says Faliszek. “And I guess well, hey, Tim, Gabe’s better at that than you. I don’t know what to tell you, man, because you stopped caring about making things.”
Other good quote:
Faliszek says it infuriates him to see “lazy dev” complaints when companies like Epic “just cut them off at the knees, man.” He suggests looking at the documentary about Half-Life and Valve: “And how many people still work there after all those years?”
And it turns out the salary was good. Very good. “They care so much about what they’re making that they’re still there and they’re all rewarded handsomely,” says Faliszek. "To be clear, I could retire, I worked my ass off at Valve, and I could retire today. I made more money than I’ll ever make. And the money I made is dwarfed by the people who were there longer than me or before me.
"But Valve understood that. That’s how you get this thing where people cared, people worked hard, people stayed because they felt they were improving. What they were building on was something that they had agency over and owned. Like, even now, I’m excited when I see the Valve announcement about the VR stuff and everything, that makes me happy.
Valve understands that they owe their success to the skill of their employees and knows how precious having such a solid team is. You can’t replace that with an expensive CEO or by throwing money at the problem later on. Valve has the best among the best and wants to keep them happy and working for them. They understand that they do best when they’re not subject to corporate micromanagement, pressure or threats of layoffs. The results speak for themselves.
Tim however did that classic business move of sacrificing everything for short term gain and on the long run they’ve completely ruined what used to make the company good.
“Go sit in the corner and think about what you’ve done, Tim.”
Does anyone know if he’s talking about the Half Life 2 documentary? I’d like to watch whatever one he’s mentioning to learn how Valve runs.
Your question shall be answered and your quest fulfilled, once you seek the source of truth and abandon the reliance on aberrant and capricious winds that carry whispers to you.
Stealing this.
I’m not even sure Valve has 1000 employees. They’re notoriously small with a weird structure, iirc something like 300ish people who are free to just take on projects and are well paid.
If anyone is curious on how Valve is structured, there’s this Youtube video that explains it very well: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s9aCwCKgkLo
and there’s also this plant ☘️ affected to the development of TF2
If valve laid off 1000 people, there wouldn’t be anyone left. The company has like 200 employees and gaben and maybe 3 other people make almost all the money. Gabens yatch fleet is worth a cool billion, or was before he added an other one a few months ago.
People simping for billionaires disgust me.
Gabens is worst than Tim. At least Epic developed Unreal Studio. Gaben gave us DRM and games you don’t actually own. Steam being nice to use doesn’t magic away the highway robbery, all games stores are shit (gog and itch not included).
FYI you have never owned a game. It’s always been a license. Even when it was physical. It’s the same for GoG too sep you get an installer for later. It’s still only a license.
Also Steam did not give us DRM. DRM has existed for decades before steam was made.
FYI you have never owned a game
The software licensing we know today for everything software related only started in like '82 or '83. What about games from the 70s? (Granted the person you responded to may still have never owned a game if they weren’t even alive in the 70s; I sure as hell wasn’t)
Xbox with online needed is just the same as DRM; Since you can’t play unless you have a connection to their server.
Ya, that’s why I said all stores. Xbox and Valve are the same coin, just a different face. Valve did popularize DRM though, before Xbox and the rest got in on it. Xbox is overall worst though.
Yeah he’s a billionaire. But he’s the least bad one . we can appreciate that. Valve is (basically) single handedly keeping all pc gaming from becoming instant shit. Imagine if ea bought valve. Scary thought. Instantly you’d have a 20 dollar a month subscription and a limit of 2 game installs/downloads a month. And your drivers license/id would be scanned.
Yes its a closed Eco system which isnt great but we still have gog. And steam games unless noted do not have DRM. They are playable without the steam client.
No such thing as a good billionaire. Least bad doesn’t cut it.
I think we have many, many more billionaires to worry about than attacking valves employees. As far as I know, valve employees aren’t donating to fascism and death camps, rigging elections, and promoting disinformation bots. Or denying healthcare.
Gabens isn’t the employee, he is the owner. When I talk shit about Amazon and Bezos, I’m not attacking the employees.
Sure. But it makes more sense to direct the rage at the actual evil billionaires. I don’t really care if Joe that got rich off wood lag screws made a billion and fucked off to his own land never to be heard from again. I do care about the ones meddling in elections and raping children.
Its like the incel Nintendo rage. No one cares.
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If Valve fired 1000 people, that means they somehow managed to fire like 700 people from a different company. Gabe is that powerful. 🤣
I mean, imagine all the AI slop game companies that would go out of business cause they couldn’t sell on Steam anymore…
all games stores are shit (gog and itch not included)
Lemmy commenter can’t hold a coherent idea in their head for three seconds. Remarkable.
Yeah, glasses houses and such it’s odd for Valve to comment on this.
Not that odd. Valve doesn’t have mass layoffs because they don’t over-hire. Beyond that, it’s salt in the wound towards Sweeney’s inability to compete.
Valve runs such a lean ship that Gaben was able to buy a boat with a fully functional hospital aboard.
Every other company that greedily sucks away profit from their consumers to the point of creating billionaires is criticised but steam gets a pass because they don’t have any employees to lay off. Jfc.
They don’t hire at all because it’s a money making machine sucking wealth out of gamers and devs alike. It needs zero manpower, it literally just prints money.
And yet they still push innovation, both in software and hardware.
Theyre certainly not angels, but they’re far closer than just about anyone else at their level.
You’re conflating. While I don’t disagree that Valve is soaking up money, and when it fleet-of-yachts money, it’s just as sickening as when any-and-everyone else does it. Where there’s a difference is in the ‘How’. While I have my problems with Steam, generally speaking, they offer a good service. They provide servers and bandwidth while selling games far cheaper than their closest competitors, by one means or another.
There’s also how they’re using that money as a company. Right now, I can think of three different lawsuits Valve is involved in just off the top of my head, all of which are fighting to worsen the hobby for gamers and Valve is opposing. Obviously, it’s in Valve’s interest as a game’s marketplace to keep gamers throwing money at them, but the ‘Why’ matters a lot less in this circumstance that the ‘What’. Even if it’s not the express purpose, Valve is the only company I know of that’s putting in any amount of effort to defend consumer rights in the gaming space. Everyone else with money comparable to what Valve has are too busy trying to exploit the market or diminish Valve’s share while providing nothing as close to as good as Steam.
News that has come out since your comment involving Valve includes an agreement with Facepunch Studios to make Source 2 available to public without any licensing fee under the name of s&box. While it’s obviously in Valve’s interest to increase the possible amount of games that will be sold on their platform, and Facepunch have done a significant amount of heavy lifting in making Source 2 both available and useful to the masses, that’s still Valve doing their part to make the gaming community a better place and provide an alternative to the (in some people’s opinions) over-used Unreal and (horribly untrustworthy) Unity.
As Zorque has said before me, Valve aren’t angles, but I truly believe Valve is bringing a net positive to the market, unlike any other company with comparable bank balances.
Probably because Valve didn’t, some guy who used to work for Valve did.
Nothing odd about wanting to put Tim’s nose in his shit. The man is beyond oblivious.
Steam has sub 300 employees and takes a biggest cut on each game. Stop sucking this billionaire’s ass, he’s no better than Epic.
OK but I look at them as the most ethical billionaires I know. They brought us linux gaming in many ways. A wicked open hand held gaming console. Many other awesome pieces of hardware. And in the case of the steam deck, they sell it so close to cost just so you use steam and you don’t even have to. It’s not even required! You can install Windows on it if you want.
Valve VS other corps: they are not the same.
Lol, the most “ethical billionaires”.
I know you won’t watch it but here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=13eiDhuvM6Y
Maybe if you sent some articles. I ain’t got no time to watch 3 YouTube videos
Called it.
Just one should be enough. If you need articles just look around, I’m not your private teacher Also not my problem if you’re to busy to care about educating yourself.
Can we please start reading the articles before commenting, and stop commenting things that didn’t happen? This article is about Chet who barely mentions Gabe once.
The title of the post literally says “hey Tim, Gabe’s better at that then you”. But ok.
That’s not what I imagine when I hear “sucking a billionaire’s ass”, but ok.
Just try ANY form of criticism of steam, and watch the army of gamers rise up while Gabe laugh is way to the bank.
I know you won’t watch it but here you go:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=13eiDhuvM6Y
I’m not sure what your point is.
Blablabla steam is good, epic and ubisoft bad.
There, I adapted to your IQ. Now you can go play your games, good boy.
You don’t even know me. Lol
They take the same cut sony and xbox do stfu
Epic takes 12% so, yeah, taking you money is something Steam is indead better at than Epic.
Please don’t watch these videos because you obviously dont need to:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=13eiDhuvM6Y
I watched all 3 of these close to when they came out.
Those are completely irrelevant to how steam is a better platform and storefront than the epic games store. You also have nothing to say about how almost every other big gaming storefront takes the same cut that steam does.
I watched all 3 of these Either it’s false, or you’re just a selfish braindead capitalist loser. Both way you’re useless, go play something, good doggy.
completely irrelevant to how steam is a better platform and storefront than the epic games
The fact that Trump rapes kids is also completely irrelevant to the way he manage his country. That’s the kind of logic you’re using.
You also have nothing to say about how almost every other big gaming storefront takes the same cut that steam does.
Lol. Epic takes 12%, steam 30% you dumbass - Imagine employing hundreds of people for years, renting huge spaces, buying a ton of hardware, just so that at the end, a storefront (basically some server space) makes more profit than you on the game you spent years developing.
I know you dont care about any of this. I just want you to remember you don’t own any of your games, and you’re fighting for a billionaire who sold you mom’s anal dildo if he believed he could make more money than games, you loser.
