The head of Iran’s parliamentary committee on national security and foreign policy said that by providing drone support to Israel, Ukraine has “effectively become involved in the war.”

Zelenskyy earlier stated that Kyiv has already deployed interceptor drones and a team of specialists to help protect US military bases in Jordan.

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    Lmao. You know very well that the idea of stateless communism exists, so no. The overwhelming majority of self-described communists support socialist states? According to who? Polling from CPUSA? Your interpersonal relationships? There are plenty of leftists on lemmy who would call themselves anarchosocialist or anarchocommunist. But okay, sure, I kinda get the idea behind “well if the majority agrees that a socialist state is required for communism, doesn’t that just make it communism?”. But these people are ALSO sometimes communist. Tankie is a pejorative mostly used by leftists to punch right, not by liberals to punch left. That’s been what I’ve seen. Liberals don’t even know what the fuck a tankie is outside of lemmy. Liberals here just use it because actual leftists use it to punch right at auth commies.

    Don’t joke with me. You know the material difference between a state imposing law on sometimes unwilling citizens and people that live harmoniously in good will with one another.

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      Lmao. You know very well that the idea of stateless communism exists, so no

      Communism is stateless, but it can only come about post-socialism, which has a state. You cannot skip from capitalism to communism.

      The overwhelming majority of self-described communists support socialist states? According to who? Polling from CPUSA?

      The CPC alone has over 100 million members, and communist orgs around the globe are most commonly Marxist-Leninist. This includes the Black Panther Party, which supported the DPRK and sent people to learn from the WPK and CPC:

      There are plenty of leftists on lemmy who would call themselves anarchosocialist or anarchocommunist.

      We aren’t talking about anarchism.

      Tankie is a pejorative mostly used by leftists to punch right, not by liberals to punch left.

      I’ve only ever seen it used by liberals or anarchists, and never to punch right but to punch left.

      Don’t joke with me. You know the material difference between a state imposing law on sometimes unwilling citizens and people that live harmoniously in good will with one another.

      Is your point that any state with laws is authoritarian? I’d agree, which is why it’s better for the working classes to control the state as they do in socialist countries so that we can collectivize all production and distribution to erase the material basis of the state for good.

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        Yes, my point is that any state with laws is authoritarian. I think I also said in another post that I think an authoritarian government does not have to be bad. The problem is that the government is doing bad things, though, so like…

        How do we not all understand the moral inconsistency of insisting people “not vote for genocide” and then be complicit in things like Russian imperialism and Chinese suppression of freedoms lol

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          Yes, my point is that any state with laws is authoritarian.

          Except for Hong Kong and Ukraine, of course. Lol.

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          The “bad things” you pointed to were putting down violent protests from the Chinese equivalent of 4chan posters. The “freedoms” the CPC suppresses are not blanket but instead directed against capitalists, fascists, and those that undermine the socialist system and work against the majority of society. There is nothing inconsistent about opposing the right-wing DNC and GOP and supporting socialism.

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                Idk I mean obviously you gave me the NYT so it’s probably pretty anti-China and depicts all this stuff as fighting back. But do you have evidence it’s not?

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                  Obviously the conflict was two-sided. The rioters called it “fighting back,” while the counter-protestors supported the extradition law that would allow the government to arrest a convicted murderer that had fled to Hong Kong to avoid punishment. The correct course was to put down the riots, which happened with less than 5 deaths according to Wikipedia.

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                    I don’t think it’s fair to classify the protests as riots when the violence seems to have mostly been escalated from the police side and the violence against counter protesters seems to be fairly isolated incidents taking place between small groups? Give some more insight, you might be turning me a little bit here