Well you’ve found the way to my cold heart. Given those US aid stats, I’m with you, that dwarfs even the genocide of palestinians. And how fucked is that? I’ll need to sit with that for a while…the democrats are clear they want to restore it (or were last year anyway), so that’s a very convincing argument to hold my nose and support the genocide of palestinians? Fuck. Well fuck. I don’t even like USAID because they so frequently use it to smuggle guns into countries they’re attempting to coup. This is a very speculative abstract metric, but if it’s even close to a fair approximation it’s pretty convincing.
I don’t think Harris is an idiot, but I don’t think you’d have to be…like…wars are very good for american arms manufacturers. I’m sure it wouldn’t happen like this, but I she was certainly not less hawkish on Iran than Trump was. Was that to try to win over some of the two-dozen or so american voters who fall into the infinitesimally small crack between the republicans and the democrats? I guess maybe, but I think it’s more likely she just actually was hawkish on Iran.
I’m just not convinced private disagreements and qualms have anything to do with it. We have agreements in place to provide military aid to Israel, and the democrats would follow through on those “obligations” to arm a genocide. Trump 1 did not make a significant increase over Obama, but Biden made a significant increase over Trump 1. Trump 2 isn’t even close to catching up. I agree the private disagreements and qualms are nicer than trump’s jeering nastiness, but that difference in nastiness is not worth a single death, so I’m not really interested in saying ‘that’s what makes it worse.’
I don’t even like USAID because they so frequently use it to smuggle guns
I have heard that too and that needs to be stopped wherever it may have been the case. It’s not perfect.
I guess maybe, but I think it’s more likely she just actually was hawkish on Iran.
I think Iran is a bugaboo that candidates have to posture on. They said the same about Hilary. I think saying, in a campaign speech, “I’m tough on Iran” is a world away from actually fucking up the way trump is doing this very minute.
And as for trump and Gaza have you seen this? That he shared and is proud of? Harris would not have had anything to do with that, i think it’s safe to say.
IDK, you’ve obviously got a lot more faith in them than I do. Obama didn’t even say “I’m gonna drone strike anyone I want anywhere in the world, sovereignty be damned,” but he did it. Biden and hillary both voted to invade Iraq. So when Democrats say “I’ll do anything necessary to stop Iran” I don’t put anything past them.
And yeah, that’s the gross behavior I’m talking about. Like…that video is gross, but it’s less bad than any of the many thousands of bombs we’ve provided. I don’t think the nastiness and the policy are related to each other.
I’m not saying I’m not frequently disappointed in them - but demanding perfection immediately seems to work even less well.
And as for “stopping Iran” i know there’s a bunch of plans that don’t involve random school bombings, which just speaks to the derangement and incompetence of the people who supposedly won the election. We would have had better than that. By a lot. The world would have had better.
I’m really not demanding perfection. Like look I’d love to see all kinds of stuff I think are no-brainers, good policy, whatever. If the Democrats tomorrow said “no more arms to Israel” I’d still have a million and one complaints…no question they’re not perfect. That’s not perfection that’s like…minimal human decency. They can keep funding ICE keep carrying out regime change wars keep fucking everyone over on healthcare and the environment and labor rights and all that. But arming israel? No; come on. That’s not “demanding perfection”
Well you’ve found the way to my cold heart. Given those US aid stats, I’m with you, that dwarfs even the genocide of palestinians. And how fucked is that? I’ll need to sit with that for a while…the democrats are clear they want to restore it (or were last year anyway), so that’s a very convincing argument to hold my nose and support the genocide of palestinians? Fuck. Well fuck. I don’t even like USAID because they so frequently use it to smuggle guns into countries they’re attempting to coup. This is a very speculative abstract metric, but if it’s even close to a fair approximation it’s pretty convincing.
I don’t think Harris is an idiot, but I don’t think you’d have to be…like…wars are very good for american arms manufacturers. I’m sure it wouldn’t happen like this, but I she was certainly not less hawkish on Iran than Trump was. Was that to try to win over some of the two-dozen or so american voters who fall into the infinitesimally small crack between the republicans and the democrats? I guess maybe, but I think it’s more likely she just actually was hawkish on Iran.
I’m just not convinced private disagreements and qualms have anything to do with it. We have agreements in place to provide military aid to Israel, and the democrats would follow through on those “obligations” to arm a genocide. Trump 1 did not make a significant increase over Obama, but Biden made a significant increase over Trump 1. Trump 2 isn’t even close to catching up. I agree the private disagreements and qualms are nicer than trump’s jeering nastiness, but that difference in nastiness is not worth a single death, so I’m not really interested in saying ‘that’s what makes it worse.’
I have heard that too and that needs to be stopped wherever it may have been the case. It’s not perfect.
I think Iran is a bugaboo that candidates have to posture on. They said the same about Hilary. I think saying, in a campaign speech, “I’m tough on Iran” is a world away from actually fucking up the way trump is doing this very minute.
And as for trump and Gaza have you seen this? That he shared and is proud of? Harris would not have had anything to do with that, i think it’s safe to say.
IDK, you’ve obviously got a lot more faith in them than I do. Obama didn’t even say “I’m gonna drone strike anyone I want anywhere in the world, sovereignty be damned,” but he did it. Biden and hillary both voted to invade Iraq. So when Democrats say “I’ll do anything necessary to stop Iran” I don’t put anything past them.
And yeah, that’s the gross behavior I’m talking about. Like…that video is gross, but it’s less bad than any of the many thousands of bombs we’ve provided. I don’t think the nastiness and the policy are related to each other.
I’m not saying I’m not frequently disappointed in them - but demanding perfection immediately seems to work even less well.
And as for “stopping Iran” i know there’s a bunch of plans that don’t involve random school bombings, which just speaks to the derangement and incompetence of the people who supposedly won the election. We would have had better than that. By a lot. The world would have had better.
I’m really not demanding perfection. Like look I’d love to see all kinds of stuff I think are no-brainers, good policy, whatever. If the Democrats tomorrow said “no more arms to Israel” I’d still have a million and one complaints…no question they’re not perfect. That’s not perfection that’s like…minimal human decency. They can keep funding ICE keep carrying out regime change wars keep fucking everyone over on healthcare and the environment and labor rights and all that. But arming israel? No; come on. That’s not “demanding perfection”