• timbuck2themoon@sh.itjust.works
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    8 hours ago

    I hate to break the news to people but there was an article just the other day about “swing voters” in Arizona. It was a mix of Rs, Ds, and independents who voted Biden in 2020 and Trump in 2024. They asked their opinions on ICE, etc. etc. Pretty much all IIRC said that ICE is going too far, people are living in fear, etc.

    The thing that stood out is the last sentence- NONE said ICE should be abolished/dismantled.

    Reading in here you’d think the popular opinion is that it should be. I can tell you it’s not true. Even some of my more liberal/left friends don’t always think it should be abolished, not to mention anyone more center.

    I personally think it should’ve been abolished yesterday and the entire DHS dismantled but I also realize that is not the popular opinion, or at least seen through polling etc. I hope all the people thinking it should are voting in primaries for candidates who argue it should. Or convincing their neighbors that it should and they also vote accordingly.

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      8 hours ago

      The first reaction is because that sounds like just allowing unlimited immigrants. They can’t consider it not existing.

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    4 hours ago

    They want to be the ones over funding ICE and doing nothing about their targeted oppression

    Edit sp

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    22 hours ago

    Performative bullshit. They’ll fund the fascist department they helped create (DHS) soon enough. Primary the old dems out!

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        22 hours ago

        It’s OK. Nothing would make me happier than to be wrong in this case. Hopefully they stick to their guns, shut down the gestapo, and finally do something to restore democracy and protect the safety of their constituents. I’m not holding my breath.

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        11 hours ago

        There are blue MAGA in the midst and don’t mind all the political murders and erosion of democracy, as long as their economic privileges are not touched.

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        22 hours ago

        If only they would’ve done literally anything when they were in power.

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          20 hours ago

          Or they le have kept the government closed! We know for a fact them letting a temporary budget get passed. Their mediocrity has allowed conservatives to thrive.

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        21 hours ago

        There’s only so much they can actually do. are willing to try.

        FTFY. They’d rather court Republicans than try progressive policy.

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      22 hours ago

      It really is an annoying thing for the states they need them to have power but also push out as many idiots as possible before hand

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      22 hours ago

      My dude, the primaries are probably not gonna matter since Trump is very likely to just steal 2026 and 2028.

      None of this would be happening if Kamala had won, but you’re an .ml user so I wouldn’t expect you to be able to comprehend that fact.

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    17 hours ago

    “Immigration tactics” again being a euphemism for “shooting innocent people in the face in broad daylight.”