also, i haven’t read steve’s article, cited in the techdirt one, yet, but i know steve (we met when i lived in austin) and he’s one of the best legal analysts i’ve met
It doesn’t even specify illegal immigrants. They’re trying to strip all immigrants of rights, even if they’ve done nothing illegal. That’s genocide. And they want to get rid of birthright citizenship too, so even if you were born in the Untied States, you can still be branded an immigrant. Then what will the criteria be for distinguishing immigrants from citizens? Everyone is a descendent of an immigrant, except Native Americans. If you go back enough generations, even they probably came from Asia.
No person shall . . . be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law.
-5th Amendment
It doesn’t say no citizen. It says no person. So, if Due Process doesn’t apply to them, are they no longer people? Isn’t this basically one of the steps that led into the holocaust? They stripped the Jews of their citizenship, deprived them of personhood, then exterminated them.
Amendment XIV
Section 1. [emphasis added]All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the state wherein they reside. No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.
it seems if they had to state it twice it was both a problem and important. fuck that it’s a problem again. Also to echo your sentiment, person not citizen.
That clause is basically what incorporates the bill of rights to apply against the states. Before that Amendment, the BoR just applied against the federal government. To this day there hasn’t been official recognition by the judiciary to apply the some of the BoR against the states (3rd Amendment, the dollar requirement from the 7th, and the like).
If due process rights don’t exist for immigrants, then they don’t exist for anyone. How can you show you’re not an immigrant without due process?
That’s the neat part! It’s the feature of just removing people you don’t like from the country. Oh you and your family have lived here for generations? Well you didn’t vote for me, so enjoy Nigeria.
How can you show you’re not an immigrant without due process?
And then they came for the…which line is second to last again?
First they came for the Communists
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Communist
Then they came for the Socialists
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Socialist
Then they came for the trade unionists
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a trade unionist
Then they came for the Jews
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Jew
Then they came for me
And there was no one left
To speak out for me
-Martin Niemoller
