From emancipation to women’s suffrage, civil rights and BLM, mass movement has shaped the arc of US history

Trump’s first and second terms have been marked by huge protests, from the 2017 Women’s March to the protests for racial justice after George Floyd’s murder, to this year’s No Kings demonstrations. But how effective is this type of collective action?

According to historians and political scientists who study protest: very.

From emancipation to women’s suffrage, from civil rights to Black Lives Matter, mass movement has shaped the arc of American history. Protest has led to the passage of legislation that gave women the right to vote, banned segregation and legalized same-sex marriage. It has also sparked cultural shifts in how Americans perceive things like bodily autonomy, economic inequality and racial bias.

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    22 days ago

    Boycotting and protesting with your money also works

    If everyone just organized together and said … ‘hey, let’s boycott this one company and just this one company’ … and everyone did it, it would drive that one company to its knees and bankrupt it and even drive it out of business.

    It wouldn’t affect most people terribly … we’d still be able to shop, go around do things and go about our lives without much disruption … but at the same time, it would scare the shit out of that one company.

    Once one company gets destroyed, then everyone organize again and target another company and boycott them … then just keep the ball rolling and keep boycotting and driving out companies one at a time. After a month of doing this, every major company would be shitting their pants knowing that they would be next on the list.

    These assholes don’t understand if you hold a sign up that says you dislike them … they never listen to that … but if a large enough group of us just stood back and withheld our money from them and told them to go fuck themselves, then they’d listen.

    • Boycotting and protesting with your money also works

      I’d say it’s the only thing that works right now.

      They don’t expect to be voted out (hell, I’m not sure anymore they expect people to vote at all next time); but they can’t control what you do with your money, they can’t force you to buy X or Y, so if you want to fuck them badly, take the money from them.

      Stop buying/using something and you’ll see how short it takes for them to correct course. There’s one thing these bastards love: money. And they’ll do whatever it takes to keep it flowing.

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    21 days ago

    Why do those in charge get so upset about protesting?

    Does it make them look bad? Yes. Does it raise awareness about an issue they would rather stay quiet about? Yes. Does it garner sympathy from like minded individuals and groups? Sure does! Does it get in the way of their plans and cause a scene? You got it! Does it generate news coverage, spreading the word of what’s going on far and wide? Often.

    Boy, all that sure sounds pretty ineffective to me! If they don’t want you to do the perfectly legal thing, it’s because it is effective against them.

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      21 days ago

      With the peaceful protests I’ve been to or that have happened at my university, most of the time they haven’t tried to stop anything aside from cops being stationed waiting for it to deescalate, then the protest eventually fizzles out and people forget it happened. There are a couple exceptions to these though:

      1. One protest happened at the same time as a bunch of other protests on different campuses, and a large number of troopers and other law enforcement with weapons shut it down and arrested dozens of people for refusing to leave an area. There was a lot of shady (and illegal) actions happening between the university admin and Texas government, where even Zionist Reddit shitlibs thought it was extreme. There was an investigation going on led by a student-run newspaper since then, not sure if it’s still happening. As far as why they did this, my guess is: (1) fear of property damage based on actions in other protests and (2) governor Abbott wanting to put on a political show by exercising his power, but I highly doubt it was because it posed a real threat to their power.

      2. The official student newspaper reporting on pro-Palestine topics painting the university in a negative light, eventually leading the university to fire the entire newspaper. Probably due to a fear of reputational damage so they wanted to impose additional obstacles (which of course backfired).

      Overall these didn’t result in any actual policy changes so there wasn’t much of an outcome. It did cause some reputational damage, where even FIRE thought our admin was too fascist and ranked us almost last. It’s probably impacting their enrollment and hiring faculty at least a little bit (but there are a lot of other factors negatively impacting this as well). Also resulted in more financial burdens for the protesters involving bail fees and needing to fund their new independent newspaper in different ways.

      There was another (non-peaceful) protest I heard of in the area involving an ICE agent being hospitalized and protestors facing terrorism charges. This also didn’t result in any policy changes, but did have some real-world harm to fascists and threat to their security, but also larger financial burdens and a lot more difficult to build popular support over.

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        19 days ago

        Weird, it should have happened over night? I mean, that’s what all the history books say happen.

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          It should have happened ever

          Idk what year or decade you are expecting Nazis to give up and go home because people stood outside of their town hall for a couple hrs every month or so on a weekend day.

          Personally i don’t think the Nazis are going to give up and it requires we remove them by force just like every other fascist government ever.

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            You don’t move the government, you move the populace. If the government feel a move will get them unelected, they are less likely to do so. Protesting is documented to have worked countless times, so maybe read a book or something?

            Non violent protest often turns to violence when it is not respected. You don’t have Nazis, you have Magats. They are also white supremacists, but they aren’t from 1940s Germany, they are from 2020s amerikkka. They are dollar store Nazis.

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              18 days ago

              This is all assuming we have free and fair elections which we absolutely don’t anymore, from gerrymandering to the electoral college to shoddy infrastructure, to rouge poll workers who were told to occupy the positions by a sitting president.

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                18 days ago

                Yeah, I get it. We are talking about the effectiveness of protesting though, not the effectiveness or condition of government. This current US government is only going to be removed by torches and pitch forks, French style.

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    22 days ago

    Data nerds (❤️) make gifs every year of the most popular search terms on Google for every day of the year.

    It’s insane how effortlessly it highlights the fact that big megaphones = world consciousness control. Protesting works.

    Idgaf if you have protested abortion since the 60s and are mad it’s still at issue. Idgaf if you hate traffic on your Tuesday commute.

    I’ll go further; idgaf if you’re protesting something I disagree with; so long as it’s peaceful. Protesting works. Not much else does.

    Do you think violence works? Wasn’t that Charlie Kirk backlash fun??

    Protesting works.

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    22 days ago

    Perhaps I’m too skeptical, but maybe the purpose of this kind of article (that’s written by a large paper and owned by who?) is to keep the oppressed, oppressed. Protests have done nothing for the us - the authoritarian leadership is here, and rights are being taken away quickly. Maybe protests work is certain regimes but not others.

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    22 days ago

    Thanks to the protests being effective, Palestine is no longer being genocided, immigrants aren’t being sent to concentration camps, and the US is not threatening random countries… oh wait

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      21 days ago

      Short term gain. It’s more about long term awareness. It is unfortunate for those now. But it’s not something that changes overnight.

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        21 days ago

        What is awareness going to do? People are already plenty aware of what’s going on, this was one of the first genocides to be livestreamed.

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            21 days ago

            ok so it will get fixed after the damage has already been done, got it

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                21 days ago

                I’m not saying I have better ideas, but if it doesn’t fix anything until it’s too late, “very” is not a good word to describe its effectiveness

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                  But you crap on mine for understanding that I don’t have any better ideas too, but am aware of what protests do in terms of change? Got it.

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    22 days ago

    Know what works even better? Voting.

    *People mad at me suggesting voting lol.

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      Where do I vote against genocide or for healthcare? Or hell I just don’t want to support billionaires, where do I vote for that?