• starelfsc2@sh.itjust.works
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    9 hours ago

    I mean I’m not sure what to say to that as that has not been my experience playing at either high or low level in league, and I’ve heard the same from tons of other people. If the jungler is hyper fed and your team doesn’t put wards, you are not allowed to trade or play aggressive ever, because you are essentially the team’s lifeline at that point and if you die the game will hyper snowball.

    I have seen and been in the position of winning lane all game and then just perma camped so I just have to sit and farm and hope my team catches up while I soak the junglers time, and I end the game 0/0/2 or something similar and we lose, or 2/5 games if I made no mistakes I can pull back these hyper lost games, which are about 30% of league games. It’s also if 1 person messes up, that makes it so everyone else has to play MUCH more defensive, i.e. waveclear and run away, for a large portion of the game

    All the time you spend walking back to lane, waiting for the next wave because you cleared the wave but you’re camped, sitting behind tower because you’re countered, sitting in gray screen because you got dove but its more optimal to get the wave and die, all of that is just pure typing time.

    Compare that to hots, your team is giga trash so you’re down 2 levels. Always a camp to get, always another wave to run to, always positioning to be gotten. There is literally no moment in hots that there isn’t something to do, no matter how bad your team is or how behind you are. If you have literally nothing to do, you run around near where an enemy is to try and see when they rotate, or try to put yourself to catch the wave right as they leave. If you did that in league you are griefing unless you already fully pushed your wave, don’t have a good base timing, have high hp and mana, and know where the enemy jungler/support/top are. If you are adc and your support is bad in league you are not allowed to play. If your jungler is bad you are not allowed to play. If the enemy mid is an assassin who is fed you’re not allowed to play. None of that is true in hots (except the assassin part a little bit).