• Rhoeri@lemmy.world
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    For all the people that didn’t vote, or voted 3rd party:

    Yeah, we know- we’ve seen the articles you all spam every time this point is made. You didn’t cause Trump to get elected. The numbers don’t lie. He’d have won anyway, right?

    … but NONE of you knew that.

    One of two things happened, so you all need to pick a lane and own it either way. Either:

    1. You knew the message that you all were sending was going to end up as a giant pointless waste of fucking time, and decided you didn’t even need try to stand in the way of a fascist, or-

    2. You hoped The message that you all were sending would be effective and you’d successfully divide the vote so that we’d all suffer under an effectively destroyed democracy- all over something that was going to happen regardless of who was in office…

    … LIKE WE FUCKING TOLD YOU IT WOULD.

    I’ll digress…

    as I said- you couldn’t have known what the outcome would be, meaning- you were fine with fucking us out of our democracy if it meant people heard your bullshit, right?

    Well… you won.

    Either way- 1, or 2, we heard you all loud and clear. Events happening to people in a place most of you couldn’t point to on a map two years ago held more value than your own families. Because again…

    You didn’t know that your little protest wouldn’t matter

    You fully expected to make a statement. So while not directly responsible, you go on and take your spot on that stage with MAGA and take your bow anyway. Because for all you knew- trump was supposed to win so that you could all have that beautiful “I told ya what would happen if you didn’t listen to us!” moment you were all yelling at us about.

    If you didn’t stand in the way of fascism, you opened the door for it. So, congrats on fucking over everyone you know.

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      4 days ago

      Meanwhile, the Democrats ran a campaign for Republican women. “He doesn’t have to know”. For weeks and weeks.

      Both “major parties” are openly colluding. Do you really think a “democracy” would tolerate unlimited bribery (“campaign funds”)? Come on now. They aren’t even bothering to hide it from you, but you refuse to see it. They are standing on the stage right out in front, laughing and clapping.

      You’ll win the next election, don’t worry. Then, in another term or two, you can vote to save the democracy from the fascist comeback, who are still somehow a viable party. And the Democrats will lose it, oops! They were so close! They seem to take a knee every term or two, it’s odd. If only everyone had voted for the pro-democracy secular corporate party, and not the anti-democracy theocratic corporate party! This will be the last election!

      Harris campaign raised over a billion dollars.

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          I have solutions, but they are not officially sanctioned by the US government.

          All I know is what isn’t a solution… voting. You can’t force a long-gone and corrupt government to fix itself by voting and saying “please stop”.

          I’ve been voting for a very long time, and for some reason they still listen to corporations instead of millions of voters. It’s almost as if they are financed and controlled by business in some way. It’s a great mystery.

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              I don’t know, I’ve never lived under a socialist/communist government, I’ve only lived in a plutocracy.

              Union membership is down to 10% (from 35% peak in 1950s, our “glory days”) perhaps if we get it down to 0% they will reward us with medical care and lots of free cookies? Worth a shot.

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                  There’s so much to read, currently on “The Creature from Jekyll Island”, a book about the Fed and banking by Griffin (politically I would say it’s libertarian-capitalist flavored).

                  I’m more interested in results and history than theory. Would you consider the Nordic model to be the best example of practical socialism in action?

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                  I worry if unions were to become that powerful, they would just take the place of ownership. However, you can’t argue with the results, higher wages and better quality of life.

                  It seems in politics and business everything must be tempered and competitive to keep it above board, just like you need government to restrain corporations, you need business to restrain government; you need owners to restrain unions, and you need unions to restrain owners.

                  Just a theory.

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          Pass electoral reform at the state level and replace First-past-the-post voting.

          This way more then two political parties can exist without a spoiler effect, and the people can have more options in the voting booth. No more hostage situation of being forced to vote against a party, rather then voting for the solutions to our problems.

          Unfortunately, blue maga has decided for you that you dont get to have a choice. You are locked in to mr bones wild ride, and you better smile and thank them for it or else you are a Russian bot!

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          You get it! I’ve been voting for a few decades, and what do you know, they have done absolutely nothing.

          But I’m sure if you keep voting Democrat, they will stop trading stocks and devaluing the dollar (inflation) and so on. You know the secret to stemming the tide.

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            You don’t!

            You see, democrats keep fascism from destroying the fabric of our democracy. Not voting- DOESN’T

            I can make this simpler for you:

            You vote AGAINST fascism, not FOR democrats.

            Watching you all having not learned this lesson is both frustrating and fascinating at the same time. It’s like the ignorance that make MAGA possible doesn’t affect conservatives and conservatives alone.