• king_comrade@lemmy.world
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      5 hours ago

      Well, I am a gambling man, how much we talking? Cos a penny bet reckons it’s a Russian loss but would I go all in? Not yet…

      • Cowbee [he/they]@lemmy.ml
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        4 hours ago

        Before you start making bets, what do you count as a Russian victory? It’s almost certainly going to end favorably to Russia, so I’m not sure why you’d take this bet.

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          4 hours ago

          Initial goal was to denazify and demilitarise Ukraine and also to ‘protect the people of Luhansk and Donetsk’ right? So anything short of that is sort of a loss. I don’t think Putin can get all of that he’s going to have to compromise.

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            4 hours ago

            Russia wants the four oblasts, which they have been accelerating their advance in in the last few months. Cheap and deadly FPV drones force slow movement in general, but in the last few months strings of Kiev-held strongholds are falling left and right. Ukraine can’t field the war much longer either, and the war is becoming increasingly unpopular. What’s likely is that the four oblasts go to Russia, Kiev is forced into NATO neutrality, and their millitary is severely crippled. That’s absolutely a Russian victory.

            Which of these do you think Russia will have to compromise on, and why would you consider the compromise to be a loss?