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NimaMag@lemmy.ml to World News@lemmy.mlEnglish · 2 days ago

Russia to Bring Special Military Operation to Its Logical Conclusion – Putin

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NimaMag@lemmy.ml to World News@lemmy.mlEnglish · 2 days ago
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Russia will bring the special military operation to its logical conclusion, achieving its goals, Russian President Vladimir Putin said on Tuesday.
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    No? Why would Russia stop when it’s winning?

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      bit of a stretch to characterize this as winning. Russia faced off with a much weaker opponent and has been spinning its tires for years now. the russian economy is in shambles. the most effective russian play this entire war was putting trump back in the white house, but that fucker will be dead before midterms. look at his puffy face and purple hands. he is a walking corpse

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        This is Qanon tier nonsense

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        Russia has been gradually taking more and more land and strategic footholds. This war is incredibly brutal, and the massive rise in FPV drones that are cheap and deadly forces slow movements, almost like a return to World War I style trench warfare. The Russian economy is still holding on strong, Europe is importing tons of gas indirectly from Russia through alternate channels, and Russia has spent the last decade trying to rely less on unreliable western trade partners. Further, there’s no real evidence of Russia putting Trump in the White House, nor would Ukraine suddenly be winning had Harris been in office.

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            the evidence that russia influenced the election is pervasive.

            I could name a hundred things that are both pervasive and false. Previously:

            • IT Pro: Cambridge Analytica models were exaggerated and ineffective, [UK Information Commissioner’s Office] claims
            • Wall Street Journal: Mueller Doesn’t Find Trump Campaign Conspired With Russia
            • Jacobin: Democrats and Mainstream Media Were the Real Kremlin Assets
            • Washington Post: FEC fines DNC, Clinton for violating rules in funding Steele dossier
            • Washington Post: Russian trolls on Twitter had little influence on 2016 voters
            • Jacobin: It Turns Out Hillary Clinton, Not Russian Bots, Lost the 2016 Election
            • Matt Taibbi: Move Over, Jayson Blair: Meet Hamilton 68, the New King of Media Fraud The Twitter Files reveal that one of the most common news sources of the Trump era was a scam, making ordinary American political conversations look like Russian spywork
            • Jacobin: Why the Twitter Files Are in Fact a Big Deal On the Left, there’s been a temptation to dismiss the revelations about Twitter’s internal censorship system that have emerged from the so-called Twitter Files project. But that would be a mistake: the news is important and the details are alarming.
            • MSNBC Repeats Hamilton 68 Lies 279 Times in 11 Minutes
            • Matt Taibbi: CIA “Cooked The Intelligence” To Hide That Russia Favored Clinton, Not Trump In 2016
            • Aaron Maté: Under Trump, the CIA is still covering up its Russiagate fraud
            • Matt Taibbi: Note on New Trump-Russia Disclosures Thanks to explosive new document releases, the Russiagate hoax is now exposed, commencing a new era that will be about accountability for the guilty
            • Matt Taibbi: No Doubt Left: Russiagate Was a Cover-Up
            • Chris Hedges: Why Russiagate Won’t Go Away The cynical con the Democratic Party and the F.B.I. carried out to falsely portray Donald Trump as a puppet of the Kremlin worked, and continues to work, because it is what those who detest Trump want to believe.

            i wouldn’t be too surprised to learn that you yourself are a russian bot

            These kinds of accusations get removed.

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            wouldn’t be too surprised to learn that you yourself are a russian bot, so uncritically do you spout moscow propaganda.

            Yeah, no shit the “evidence is pervasive” when your standard of evidence for declaring someone a Russian agent is “they disagree with me”

            You are a fascist, you are a Nazi ranting about Judeo-Bolshevick conspiracies, you are a McCarthyist ranting about communist subversion of our precious bodily fluids.

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            There’s no evidence that the collapse in Ukrainian defenses will slow down, rather it seems like it will accelerate as strongholds fall and the war becomes increasingly unpopular. Russia isn’t trying to take all of Ukraine, just the four oblasts, the Economist is trying to frame it as total and complete conquest of Ukraine. When compared to Russia’s actual objectives, Russia is advancing steadily.

            Further, Russia does not “throw meat” at the war. Russians are largely supportive of Putin right now because he’s doing a balancing act between appeasing the Russian capitalist class and the rising socialist movements in the public. Russia’s economy is holding strong, the sheer fact that sanctions are still coming out means they haven’t been effective thus far. I belong to the Marxist school of economics, which recognizes actual production over the largely financial western economies.

            Your final accusation that I’m a bot for not agreeing with you is just the cherry on top. You give clear examples of liberals manipulating data like the economist graph and using percentages of total Ukrainian territory and not the Donbass region, because when we measure Russia by its ability to achieve its actual goals its clear that its rapidly advancing towards them. You’re quite literally uncritically spouting liberal, western propaganda that falls apart at the slightest prodding.

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            Incredible homophobia from you. Counteract my points with your own, not mask-off homophobia. Scratch a liberal and a fascist bleeds.

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                Ableism too, amazing. Mask-off.

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            “Hehehe CUM hehe people who don’t support the Ukranian nazi government are GAY for a RUSSIAN man and GAY is BAD and SHAMEFUL huehuehue”

            Behold: the liberal ally

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                Boring chan dweller shit, nurse your bruised little ego elsewhere

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