• bagsy@lemmy.world
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    3 days ago

    Nope, fuck maga. i have no sympathy for nazis. they want to hate everything and everyone, let them be miserable in their little hate worlds.

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      2 days ago

      There are several sets of people involved. First you have the ambitious. These are politicians and such that probably aren’t really racist at the core, but are willing to act and be racist to get ahead. They are the real problem. But it isn’t hate that drives them. It’s ambition. For the people suffering, that doesn’t matter. But when it comes to solving the problem it does.

      Then you have the people who are actually racist, hateful people. They do exist, but they are actually a very small minority. The rest are “followers”. They weren’t racist until someone convinced them to be. These are the people you can give better options to. Doing so errodes the power of the other two groups.

      I have no sympathy for the two groups that aren’t the followers.

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      3 days ago

      You realize you think like them and they think like you, right? Dehumanizing someone unequivocally and wishing ill upon them is the easy and default human condition you find yourself living in right now.

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        3 days ago

        i do realize that and it weighs on me, and i hate it, but i refuse to tolerate intolerance.

        I am fully willing to have rational conversations with maga, but after trying 100s of times and making no progress, i see no reason to continue with the olive branch. i would have better luck teaching my dog mandrin, than making maga see reason or have empathy.

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          3 days ago

          It’s a fascinating social construct: Once enough chronological years are accumulated, expertise is expected. Obviously though, points at everything, that’s a fallacy. They’re literally clinically retarded. It’s uncouthe to fight the retarded.

      • NeilBrü@lemmy.world
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        2 days ago

        Ah, the age-old dilemma: is it morally sound and/or necessary to dehumanize dehumanizers?

        And if we’re honest, isn’t dehumanizing people a very human trait?

        Or put my favorite way: “No one hates like family.”