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      Harris adviser says VP ran ‘flawless’ campaign

      “I would posit she ran a pretty flawless campaign, and she did all the steps that [were] required to be successful,” she added. “And I think – obviously, we did not win, but I do think we hit all the marks.”

      Nix, Harris’ campaign manager, also attributed Trump’s decision not to participate in any debate following the ABC News presidential debate on Sept. 10 as detrimental to the Harris campaign’s strategy of presenting the choice between Trump and Harris clearly to voters several times.

      “I think that was hard for us to then get the attention that we would have liked to,” Nix said.

      Well, there you have it. Perfect campaign. No notes. Just wish Trump had been willing to debate, because we all know the problem Harris had was getting her face out there.

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    I was never a big fan, but I was passionate about supporting her from the moment Biden stammered through that debate until this moment in her DNC speech: https://youtube.com/shorts/-UQliWnKnqY

    This was the moment when she did the heel turn away from all the clever, momentum building moves that assembled a surprisingly left-friendly coalition. Everything after this was punching left and she lost as a result.

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      I still think Biden’s refusal to let go of the reins until way way too late is what doomed her primarily. As VP, she had to hold and defend Biden’s exact policies and positions, even the unpopular ones, while he was running. By the time he finally quit, she was basically stuck inside the rotting corpse of his campaign, having painted herself into a corner on every issue.

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    Article was a great read. This part really resonated with me.

    It may seem petty to use this incident, but it does illustrate Harris’s expectation that the world should conform to her needs. Towels on the far side of the room? Someone else must fetch them. A slot as the Democrat presidential candidate that party leaders conveniently made sure would be uncontested by anyone else, a massively well-funded campaign that raked in over a billion dollars and the support of celebrities like Oprah and Beyoncé, a popular vice presidential candidate, a huge boost in the polls as soon as she stepped into the campaign… and, yet, somehow, her loss is still anyone’s fault but her own. Why are my towels on the other side of the room? Who will fetch them for me?

    It really did feel that way in hindsight. That we all were just supposed to conform to her and not the other way around.

    I remember Hacks on Tap talking about how their contacts were frustrated that Harris wasn’t out doing more national television interviews and that she wasn’t really putting herself out there. This feels like another example of the towel in the bathroom.

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      Imagine not voting for the black lady because she has to prove herself worthy while a criminal senile pedophile can go on insane demented rants for a year and win by default.

      There’s a lot of cope happening in America, and everyone is pointing fingers, but the fact is 2/3 of the electorate either voted for fascism or didn’t bother to vote against it.

      But go ahead and blame everyone and everything other than the fact that American culture is fundamentally rotten and most people either want fascism or at least don’t care about whether it happens.

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        Well that’s a gross over-simplification. It certainly wasn’t her and the DNC’s long history of clearly ignoring the needs of the people who want to vote for them while regularly reaching for “moderate” votes. It definitely wasn’t her disconnection from Walz while hanging out with Liz Cheney for a significant amount of time.

        People don’t see her as any form of significant opposition to the far-right but they do see opposing the DNC as something worth doing and I’ve come around to supporting them there. It is not their fault that the Republicans won, anyoderately sane and intelligent people would have laughed him into oblivion but the US threw tens of millions of people at Trump.

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        Ehhhh I think it will come out the election results were mostly faked or influenced in an illegal way. I don’t think people voted this way. But Trump had allies with voting machines.

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        Harris ran on a campaign of “everything is fine, status quo as usual.”

        If you’re drowning in the ocean and you see two life boats, one is rowing away from you saying “you’re not drowning, everything is fine” and the other has a guy reaching his hand out that you have personally seen sink 5 other live boats he was on, you’re still going to swim towards the guy holding his hand out.

        One person seemed to at least acknowledge that a lot of people were barely surviving, and maybe, maybe try his time, he would actually help which was better odds than the person who made it clear they definately wouldn’t.

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      Hitler was appointed chancellor by Hindenburg, who ran as a left wing centrist. And at the time they were fighting against a bloc of left wingers and a small group of communists. Sound familiar?

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        Hindenburg, who ran as a left wing centrist.

        There wasn’t anything “left-wing” about Hindenburg. He ran on maintaining the status quo - a status quo that was a rapidly deteriorating depression with very high unemployment. He represented business interests and was never going to do any of the major reforms that would’ve been necessary to save the republic (if anything could).

        The social democrats decided to throw unconditional support to these centrist parties for the sake of stability. They didn’t seem to have any actual understanding of why conditions were deteriorating, why extremism was rising, or what needed to be done in order to address it - all they could ever think to do was support the bourgeoisie in order to buy time - in order to sleepwalk into fascism.

        Naturally, as Hindenburg represented bourgeois interests, he was always going to side with the far-right against the left, if he had to choose. And, since conditions were declining with no plan to actually fix anything, he was always going to end up in the position of having to choose.

        I would say that there are similarities, though, yes.

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    Number of times a candidate has run against or in place of the incumbent and failed miserably before Harris: 3

    …And succeeded: 0

    Number of times a candidate has run against or in place of the incumbent and failed miserably after Harris: 4

    It was a terribly weak position, but she foolishly believed in the American people to pick the best of two bad options.

    She was misguided.

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    I am not trying to be political or upset anybody of either side. I blame Joe Biden for this, before you judge or get upset or disagree with me–just wait. I believe this is particularly the reason she lost. She was left only from July to November to figure out her platform, determine a potential running mate, and come up with ideas.

    Usually they start campaigning around the midterms leaving nearly 2 years. She only had 4-5 months to prepare. She had limited amount of time to prepare her political campaign, to figure out her agenda how to get her message out there to everybody. Wait for time for people to hear it. They were not sure of her policies, they thought she was just an extension of Joe Biden because she didn’t have time.

    This is just one factor. She did a very excellent job for the few months she had left. She could have done a better job if Joe Biden had not ran a second term.

    Then it upset people that Democrats didn’t hold an open primary. She would have still won most likely, but for the younger generation and others. It was a turn off, they said it was a form of tyranny. (Of course it wasn’t. Even Republican party in 2020 cancelled primaries in some states)

    Then you had states cleaning up the ‘voting rolls’ people didn’t realize they were unregistered, and ran out of time to register again. In a lot of states, I don’t believe you can register on the day you vote. I might be wrong though.

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      No she is rightfully to blame. Her platform was “Nothing will change” and “Israel has a right to defend itself”. If she would have not said those 2 things she would have won.

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      She refused to appear in unscripted events. People point to Trump’s podcast appearances as the reason he won, but in my opinion it’s closer to the truth to say that Kamala refusing to appear unless everything was closely controlled is what really cost her.

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        Some of that may also be that the secret service doesn’t allow for to much non “closely controlled” environments. Not sure exactly how that works, but I assume you have to let them know where you are going to be in advance and they figure out who is going to be there and set perimeter and everything else, which if you are nervous I imagine you fall into a “I should prepare for this interview” having hours/possibly days to do so.

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      She was left only from July to November to figure out her platform, determine a potential running mate, and come up with ideas.

      She didn’t have too little time. She had too much time. She could have won if Biden had died a week before the election, and she had to take over last minute. The peak of her popularity was right when she got the candidacy. And it was all downhill from there. The more voters got to know her, the less they liked her. If she had had more time, it would have been much worse.

      She was a deeply unlikable candidate that ran dead last in the primary she ran in. She was chosen by Biden as VP precisely because she was seen as unelectable and thus not a serious rival for Biden’s position.

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    Bill Maher did a bit, just before taking a break in his show where he discussed future news that would happen while on break. He said Biden would drop out, and then he looked at the top contenders. He really crushed Harris, saying she would never be president.

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    Whats the word for when you don’t really fully like someone, so you don’t vote for them, thereby giving the edge to the other guy, who you don’t like even more?

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      It’s called “right wing stupidity” and we should be calling out these worthless dumbfucks wherever we can. Although we should be clear that it does not seem like those particular brainless fools made enough of a difference.

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      Spine? Conviction?

      Whatever it is, the important takeaway is if future campaigns take the same approach, they’re liable to get the same results.