• FlexibleToast@lemmy.world
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    All of that is great, but he’s ignoring the biggest problem with the democratic party. It’s such a “big tent” that it lacks a cohesive vision. That’s why only strongly charismatic leaders like Obama are able to do well. Listen to the interview, I completely understand where Martin is coming from and he wants the voters to dictate the direction of the party without putting the thumb of the DNC on the scale. That’s great and all, but it also kind of throws out the entire point of the party as a platform and a sort of shorthand for a set of policies. It doesn’t surprise me at all that Martin’s vision worked at a state level, but how does it work at a national level? Hopefully it works well and certainly it can’t be worse that what was previously being done.

    That interview was pretty wild. It was like he was trying to gaslight Jon the entire time. Jon would bring up a point and Martin would respond with a “yes and.” However, that “and” would be an elaborate way of saying “actually no.”

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      That’s great and all, but it also kind of throws out the entire point of the party as a platform and a sort of shorthand for a set of policies

      Only if you think the purpose of the party is how neoliberals weilded it for decades…

      That’s not what the party should do, it’s not what its for, and a large issue with the current situation is that’s how neoliberals used it.

      It doesn’t surprise me at all that Martin’s vision worked at a state level, but how does it work at a national level?

      Because it’s easier to run a national party correctly than a state party correctly.

      Like, you’re on the right track. There’s a shit ton of offices to manage at a state level, but for the DNC they literally just need to run a fair presidential.primary once every 4 years.

      No more, no less.

      That’s why Ken’s giving all that money back to the state parties. There’s literally nothing it can be used for right now, so give it back to the state parties it was stolen from and who need it for midterms.

      I 100% get why it seems like nothing is being done, but that’s literally because a DNC operating correctly shouldn’t have anything to do.

      They shouldn’t be prostelizing policy, they shouldn’t be promoting candidates.

      Any attempt to do so, will just result in eventually losing the party to neoliberals again. Because they can play the dirty game better.

      It’s gonna take a while for people to get used to it. But its gonna pay off in midterms, and then obviously in the next presidential primary.

      Quick edit:

      Think of it like the Middle East.

      The wealthy consolidated power in the DNC, because it’s easier to control a single person with massive power, the DNC chair.

      Martin is undoing all that. Disseminating the “power” (money) back to all the state parties. Which even when he’s gone makes it harder for the wealthy to seize control.of the next chair.

      If he kept the power (funds) and tried to weild it for good, it would be easier for a neoliberal to grab.

      We gotta throw the ring into the volcano, we can’t turn into Gollum.