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      You know, I think the admin trying to make thought crime a thing actually deserves attention.

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      Honest, genuine question: would there be any point in this descent into fascism where you’d give up on this tactic?

      I suppose I can still understand it at this stage: most conflict is still abroad, only 9 months in to the presidency, and the Epstein revelations are still fresh, but how long will you push this?

      Will you still be shouting about Epstein once the first protestor is killed by ICE? What about after the first civilian doors are busted down? What about after trans people are definitively criminalized? What about after the first train is loaded up? What about after the first mass grave is discovered? What about after a few tens of thousands of Americans have been exterminated?

      I’m not saying everything above is going to happen, but supposing they did, would you still be shouting Epstein? Because at this point, it appears as if you, along with the rest of the Epstein crowd, will be shouting about it regardless of however far we are into the fascist descent. I dont understand that.

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        What about after the first civilian doors are busted down?

        Already happened in Chicago. They kicked in the doors of an entire apartment building.

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        Playing Devil’s advocate here:

        Releasing the Epstein files is something that people on both the left and right can mostly agree on. Even a subset of MAGA want it.

        On the other hand, killing protesters is disappointingly more of a partisan concern. Traditional Republicans probably wouldn’t approve, but MAGA has been brainwashed into supporting “retaliatory” violence against anyone left of them.

        Pushing the Epstein files will, therefore, be more effective when trying to get people together.

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      Even if it was, you’re allowed to be opposed to something in the constitution. That’s why we have amendments.

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    So we’re gonna start actively prosecuting thought crime now. Cool cool.

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    I’m classifying Trump as a “post/pre/rapist” because he has rapped children and will probably do it again.

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    Welcome to the USA! We already had the world’s largest rates of obesity, depression and mass shootings, but now we also have a pedophile President, and - finally, amirite? - THOUGHTCRIME!

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    That will be one of the reasons used to arrest political opponents.

    “You voted for something that benefits workers; straight to jail.”

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    The admin publicly admitting that you will be randomly disappeared by their terrorists unless you manage to kill your kidnappers.

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    Happiness? Bah

    Equal standards? Ugh

    Profitable? That’s my moral standard

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      I just heard the other day that Mussolini supposedly said “Fascism should more appropriately be called Corporatism because it is a merger of state and corporate power”, but this is apparently not something that can be found that he has said. Still, it’s not really wrong.

      From duck.ai:

      The Disputed Quote

      The quote “Fascism should be called corporatism” is most likely an unconfirmed internet attribution that cannot be definitively traced to Mussolini’s actual writings or speeches. Specifically:

      Verification Status: Unconfirmed
          According to sources like SourceWatch, the quote is considered an "internet hoax"
          Researchers like Chip Berlet (noted as Cberlet) have stated that no one can find an actual citation for this specific quote
      
      Conceptual Context
          While Mussolini did develop theories about the relationship between state and corporate power, this exact phrasing appears to be a modern paraphrase rather than a direct quote
          The concept of corporatism was indeed central to fascist ideology, which emphasized a tight integration between state power and economic institutions
      

      Historical Interpretation

      The misattributed quote reflects a genuine historical insight about fascist political philosophy:

      Fascism, particularly in Mussolini's Italy, promoted a model where:
          The state had extensive control over economic institutions
          Corporations were seen as extensions of state power
          Economic entities were organized into state-controlled syndicates or associations
      

      Modern Scholarly Perspective

      Contemporary scholars like David Graeber have noted that the structural similarities between different political systems (social democracy, fascism, state communism) are more complex than traditional narratives suggest. The quote, while likely apocryphal, captures a kernel of truth about how power can be distributed between state and corporate entities. Conclusion

      The specific quote is an unverified attribution. While it captures something meaningful about fascist ideology, it should not be presented as a direct Mussolini quote without rigorous historical verification.