Well I’m worried. I have a favorite hat I sewed an upside down American flag on. Too scared to wear it and get in a firefight with a MAGA goon. They will pick fights, been on the edge a few times. Wife’s a legal, brown immigrant. Can’t fuck around because of fear for her.
Too scared to plant an antifa flag in my yard. There will be a firefight if they come for me over that. Or if they come for my wife, for any reason.
Fuck me, even on this platform, I’m afraid to say too much. OTOH, some things I’ve said are basically a “dare ya” to the government.
Even having the means and skills to protect myself and my family, my speech has been stifled. And that’s America where I live, 2025.
While I agree with your previous comment, I think that this is part of the consequences of free speech. Someone might punch you. Maga are idiots, traitors for sure, but if we use American rules then yeah they have the right to be upset abou that. that being said, we are far past following American rules.nin my opinion.
It sucks we have to be manually approved by a person in order to post here. I’m almost a free speech absolutist, only doxing and threatening to physically harm someone or a group of people unjustifiably shouldnt be tolerated. Everything else is fair to use publicly.
Spreading hatred - “Inciting violence for a person/group of people using baseless accusasions often for self-interests,
like fucking telling people to bully their classmates into suicide for being gay to get youtube podcast ad revenue and saying it’s ‘free speech’
as if you didn’t just do the equivalent of picking a random guy to report for murder because you got bored.”
I agree. I have to specify “lying” does not fall under free speech tho.
Free speech was never about the literal “talking” but for things like free press/journalism and discussing.
Free speech doesn’t mean people can just accuse others of rape and murder because they are bored.
People shouldn’t be able to say “gay muslim immigrants want to kill us all and establish communism,” and then act like 14 year olds being bullied into suicide is not their fault.
Especially when it’s for money or political campaigning. It’s not “free speech” to lie and incite violence for self-benefits.
That is understandable, but no one should be harmed for saying “group” are dumb, “group” are evil. Inciting violence against a person or group is wrong depending on how much influence the inciter has to cause real physical harm in the near future. Saying someone stole or SA’d with no proof or not good proof isnt part of free speech too.
All speech should be protected, even if the shirt character was replaced with a bIm guy
While the government shouldn’t be allowed to restrict speech, that doesn’t mean your speech shouldn’t have consequences.
No one should have to worry about being harmed physically or legally at least.
Well I’m worried. I have a favorite hat I sewed an upside down American flag on. Too scared to wear it and get in a firefight with a MAGA goon. They will pick fights, been on the edge a few times. Wife’s a legal, brown immigrant. Can’t fuck around because of fear for her.
Too scared to plant an antifa flag in my yard. There will be a firefight if they come for me over that. Or if they come for my wife, for any reason.
Fuck me, even on this platform, I’m afraid to say too much. OTOH, some things I’ve said are basically a “dare ya” to the government.
Even having the means and skills to protect myself and my family, my speech has been stifled. And that’s America where I live, 2025.
While I agree with your previous comment, I think that this is part of the consequences of free speech. Someone might punch you. Maga are idiots, traitors for sure, but if we use American rules then yeah they have the right to be upset abou that. that being said, we are far past following American rules.nin my opinion.
It sucks we have to be manually approved by a person in order to post here. I’m almost a free speech absolutist, only doxing and threatening to physically harm someone or a group of people unjustifiably shouldnt be tolerated. Everything else is fair to use publicly.
Spreading hatred, let alone hatred based on made up reasons, should not be legal.
That’s a slippery slope- trump is doing that with people correctly pointing out that Charlie Kirk was a dickhead.
How is that example a slippery slope? Most of what Trump does is criminal.
He wants to criminalize spreading hate about Charlie Kirk.
You personally gonna define hatred? No way that can go wrong.
Spreading hatred - “Inciting violence for a person/group of people using baseless accusasions often for self-interests,
like fucking telling people to bully their classmates into suicide for being gay to get youtube podcast ad revenue and saying it’s ‘free speech’
as if you didn’t just do the equivalent of picking a random guy to report for murder because you got bored.”
Right. There. Proves my point. Trump is saying words spoken against him are “inciting violence”.
I agree. I have to specify “lying” does not fall under free speech tho.
Free speech was never about the literal “talking” but for things like free press/journalism and discussing.
Free speech doesn’t mean people can just accuse others of rape and murder because they are bored.
People shouldn’t be able to say “gay muslim immigrants want to kill us all and establish communism,” and then act like 14 year olds being bullied into suicide is not their fault.
Especially when it’s for money or political campaigning. It’s not “free speech” to lie and incite violence for self-benefits.
That is understandable, but no one should be harmed for saying “group” are dumb, “group” are evil. Inciting violence against a person or group is wrong depending on how much influence the inciter has to cause real physical harm in the near future. Saying someone stole or SA’d with no proof or not good proof isnt part of free speech too.
Remember that child porn is technically speech.