In my opinion, AI just feels like the logical next step for capitalist exploitation and destruction of culture. Generative AI is (in most cases) just a fancy way for cooperations to steal art on a scale, that hasn’t been possible before. And then they use AI to fill the internet with slop and misinformation and actual artists are getting fired from their jobs, because the company replaces them with an AI, that was trained on their original art. Because of these reasons and some others, it just feels wrong to me, to be using AI in such a manner, when this community should be about inclusion and kindness. Wouldn’t it be much cooler, if we commissioned an actual artist for the banner or find a nice existing artwork (where the licence fits, of course)? I would love to hear your thoughts!

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    A less than 24 hour old account, who’s entire comment history is this post which is pushing rehashed anti-AI nonsense in the guise of a concerned community member.

    Ladies and gentleman, this is an excellent example of a concern troll:

    https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Concern_troll

    A concern troll is someone who disingenuously visits sites of an opposing ideology to disrupt conversation by offering unwanted advice on how to solve problems which do not really exist.

    Topics of “concern” usually involve tactical use of rhetoric, site rules, or with more philosophical consistency. The concern troll’s posts are almost exclusively intended to derail the normal functions of their targeted website.

    With a little prep time and some VPNs the OP could have enough alts available to ensure that anyone arguing against them receives enough down votes to make the OP’s position seem reasonable.

    If you examined the population of people who contributed down votes, you’d likely find a bunch of new or low comment history accounts who seem to exclusively vote in anti-AI threads.

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      Well, but you are not of an opposing ideology, your sub is called “ask Lemmy”, not “ask AI obsessed people”, so your definition doesn’t even make sense. I honestly don’t understand why you people insist on painting me in such a negative light, just because I am new. That is called bullying by the way. I didn’t even intend this thread to blow up in such a way, I guess a lot of people seem to care.

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          post with a score of 181 currently … kinda difficult to argue that someone asking a question as politely as possible, and getting a lot of agreement that the question is worth asking, is simply trolling.

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        I honestly don’t understand why you people insist on painting me in such a negative light, just because I am new. That is called bullying by the way.

        “ask AI obsessed people”

        This you? You use bad faith arguments and ad hominem and you’ll get the same back.

        I guess a lot of people seem to care.

        Yes, who knew AI was such a hot button issue on social media? /s

        It seems incredibly unlikely that you could be unaware of the the volatility of the topic while also parroting all of the anti-ai talking points. Your mask is slipping.

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      FauxLiving: na na na! I don’t like their opinion so this must be nonsense! stupid silly forum users cannot even have real values like me…

      on another note, I would be interested in how did you amass 1400 comments in mere 5 months!

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        Ah, I see we’re being mature now.

        FauxLiving: na na na! I don’t like their opinion so this must be nonsense! stupid silly forum users cannot even have real values like me…

        WhyJiffie: blah blah blah, I don’t have opinions of my own so I follow the downvoting winds to sling shit and ask dumb questions.

        I would be interested in how did you amass 1400 comments in mere 5 months!

        In Lemmy, if you type words into the text field and press the reply button it creates a comment. If you do it 2 times, then you have 2 comments. I’ll leave the rest of the exercise to the reader.

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          your condemning tone is really not needed. However it’s always somewhat suspicious when someone posts so many comments as if that was their day job, with easily half dozen detailed comments in an hour. in 5 months, your 1400 comments is basically 9 comments a day every day, on average.

          I’ll just add “troll” to your label besides “AI apologist”.

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            It’s a condescending tone, actually.

            I’m sorry if you think typing a few paragraphs is some herculean effort. I know it’s painful to have to step away from TikTok for so many seconds but keep at it and maybe one day you too can string more than two thoughts together in the same comment.

            “You talk a lot” isn’t quite the burn you think it is but maybe if you keep rephrasing it a few more times it’ll land.

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              It’s a condescending tone, actually.

              something I can agree with finally.

              I’m sorry if you think typing a few paragraphs is some herculean effort. I know it’s painful to have to step away from TikTok for so many seconds

              no no, you misunderstand me. but lets start with your assumption. I don’t use tiktok, and I condemn (now this is correct use I believe) its users. its even blocked at the home network, by me, mainly for 3rd party tracking.

              its not the few paragraphs I was meaning. when I was looking at your comment history one of the latest comments was spanning the screen with several code examples (or were they commands? I don’t remember). and there were several similar length comments of yours posted within an hour.

              my point is not that “you talk a lot”. but whether your opinions are actually yours.

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                Terminal commands, maybe some Python, I don’t remember all of my comments.

                I’m a system administrator. I write technical articles for non-technical people and am primarily paid to sit around and keep things from exploding.

                I have plenty of free time to get into slap fights on social media and I can probably type faster than I speak, so it isn’t a huge time investment to write a paragraph or two.

                The insinuation that I’m a bot is a nice pivot, at least it’s more direct than a vague reference to my comment count. Though, you probably should have went with implying that I have no life or some other personal failing.

                Implying that a bot can produce a large volume of coherent text will get you kicked out of the Luddite club…