Hit the downvote button now. I’m OK with it. But this needs to be said.
As of my writing, there are 32 comments in this thread, and they’re almost all shining examples of why Democrats will lose the next election.
People keep saying that those on the right need to leave the GOP and start voting in their own best interests. And then when they do, those on the left take an absolute shit all over them. Liz Cheney tried helping Kamala Harris in her campaign, and people acted as if Harris suddenly adopted all of Cheney’s shitty ideas. All Cheney was trying to do was tell people “Hey, we don’t have to agree on policy, but we can both agree that Trump is unfit for office.”. We just saw another attempt at passing a bipartisan bill that was solely meant to at least try to rein in some of Trump’s power, and people on this site took a dump on it because it had Republican support. Why the fuck would anyone on the right even try to change when all it would result in is getting shit on and ostracized from both parties? You’re not going to get them to abandon MAGA that way. Why would they abandon MAGA when you’re just going to turn around and treat them just as badly? All you’re going to do is cause them to dig in their heels and MAGA even harder.
And this is the part that’s gonna cause everyone to hit the downvote button, if they haven’t already.
All 50 states shifted to the right in the last election, to some degree or another. And you think that pushing to the left even harder is going to get those people back? If they were interested in extreme left policies, they wouldn’t have shifted to the right in the first place. Pushing hard left after the results of 2024 is only going to make 2028 look like an even bigger embarrassment. Democrats are going to have to give up some ground if they intend to win in 2028. No, I’m not saying we need to give ICE any credibility or that Trump’s immigration policies are in any way acceptable, but it probably does mean that overall immigration policy will have to be tougher than it was pre-Trump. This could be in the form of immediate deportation for convicted criminals, stricter asylum policies, etc. Trump’s tariffs obviously have to go, but maybe forcing NATO to contribute more to their own defense isn’t such a bad idea. But the idea that we can win in 2028 by pushing hard left after the electorate shifted to the right is a great way to ensure we lose even harder next time. Reasonable concessions are going to have to be made if you’re going to win back any of the centrists that voted for Trump. If they were interested in extreme left policies, they’d have voted for them the first time. There are exactly zero voters in this country who said “You know, Harris’ policies weren’t progressive enough for my liking, so I’m going to vote for someone on the extreme right instead”.
This is just reality. If Democrats have a chance of winning in 2028, they’re going to have to make some concessions to get centrists back on their side. And yes, this also means taking the opportunity to work with Republicans on what little common ground may exist when the opportunity arises. You can’t simultaneously take a giant shit on them while also wondering why they don’t vote for you. And if they don’t vote for you, you cannot win. Again, this doesn’t mean that we have to cheer on ICE, enshrine DOGE as an actual department of the government, or invade Greenland. But concessions are going to have to be made.
Hit the downvote button now. I’m OK with it. But this needs to be said.
As of my writing, there are 32 comments in this thread, and they’re almost all shining examples of why Democrats will lose the next election.
People keep saying that those on the right need to leave the GOP and start voting in their own best interests. And then when they do, those on the left take an absolute shit all over them. Liz Cheney tried helping Kamala Harris in her campaign, and people acted as if Harris suddenly adopted all of Cheney’s shitty ideas. All Cheney was trying to do was tell people “Hey, we don’t have to agree on policy, but we can both agree that Trump is unfit for office.”. We just saw another attempt at passing a bipartisan bill that was solely meant to at least try to rein in some of Trump’s power, and people on this site took a dump on it because it had Republican support. Why the fuck would anyone on the right even try to change when all it would result in is getting shit on and ostracized from both parties? You’re not going to get them to abandon MAGA that way. Why would they abandon MAGA when you’re just going to turn around and treat them just as badly? All you’re going to do is cause them to dig in their heels and MAGA even harder.
And this is the part that’s gonna cause everyone to hit the downvote button, if they haven’t already.
All 50 states shifted to the right in the last election, to some degree or another. And you think that pushing to the left even harder is going to get those people back? If they were interested in extreme left policies, they wouldn’t have shifted to the right in the first place. Pushing hard left after the results of 2024 is only going to make 2028 look like an even bigger embarrassment. Democrats are going to have to give up some ground if they intend to win in 2028. No, I’m not saying we need to give ICE any credibility or that Trump’s immigration policies are in any way acceptable, but it probably does mean that overall immigration policy will have to be tougher than it was pre-Trump. This could be in the form of immediate deportation for convicted criminals, stricter asylum policies, etc. Trump’s tariffs obviously have to go, but maybe forcing NATO to contribute more to their own defense isn’t such a bad idea. But the idea that we can win in 2028 by pushing hard left after the electorate shifted to the right is a great way to ensure we lose even harder next time. Reasonable concessions are going to have to be made if you’re going to win back any of the centrists that voted for Trump. If they were interested in extreme left policies, they’d have voted for them the first time. There are exactly zero voters in this country who said “You know, Harris’ policies weren’t progressive enough for my liking, so I’m going to vote for someone on the extreme right instead”.
This is just reality. If Democrats have a chance of winning in 2028, they’re going to have to make some concessions to get centrists back on their side. And yes, this also means taking the opportunity to work with Republicans on what little common ground may exist when the opportunity arises. You can’t simultaneously take a giant shit on them while also wondering why they don’t vote for you. And if they don’t vote for you, you cannot win. Again, this doesn’t mean that we have to cheer on ICE, enshrine DOGE as an actual department of the government, or invade Greenland. But concessions are going to have to be made.