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    sure, until his momentum hits a very large, orange, fascist wall. let’s hope that doesn’t happen.

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        I feel like that one’s expected and therefore not the biggest threat. Everyone knows what the biggest threat is but only that it’s spineless and makes no sense, so good luck planning ahead for it. Numbers should help, but have seem meaningless in the past.

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      Hey so let’s not go ham on the pessimism just yet. There’s a lot of things that can go wrong in a lot of places, yes, but we’re seeing a lot of good things so far. Let’s not assume he and the movement he’s starting is gonna fail a priori.

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        sure, but may i point out you are telling me to “not go ham on the pessimism” during modern American fascism spearheaded by a would-be dictator who has a hardon for deporting legal brown citizens and SCOTUS is fine with it

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            i’m not refusing, i promise. i won’t reject optimism—i am, however, going to constantly remind people how difficult this is going to be because not even half of Americans understand the basics of fascism. we are in deep and the legal routes are gone. i want the stark reality to be felt and understood.

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      It’s almost like someone needs to do something about that wall. But by all means, keep waiting for someone to come save you.

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      Depends on the size of the wave behind him. Studies have shown a wall alone isn’t as effective at stopping large waves. Now when there are effective and thought out breakers further out, the wave tends to have little effect.

      Thankfully, this administration is incompetent. Problem though is the amount of resources they have and a Democratic, and Nationwide resistance, that can’t stop eating their boots for failure of any true effectiveness.

      We need a leader. Just like the Republicans, we need a person, or person, we can rally behind. Figureheads that stand as tall as Trump. Until then, what we have are several broken fronts working loosely together against a larger, [mostly] coordinated force.

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        Figureheads that stand as tall as Trump

        Should they also wear lifts? Or is it important that their height is natural?

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    Fucking love this polling. The only shot the establishment has is either Adams or Cuomo dropping out and endorsing the other. Cuomo won’t quit because he’s a sociopathic narcissist. Adams can’t quit because if he can’t do Trump’s bidding in NYC, Trump will probably prosecute him for corruption (and he is very guilty of corruption). Throw Silwa into the mix and the moderates will have to choose between two corrupt megalomaniacs and a weirdo in a beret, while anyone remotely progressive will gravitate towards Mamdani.

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      Also to note for others: NYC only has ranked choice for mayor in primaries (or special elections), so there is no ranked choice in this general election

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      Aw… they did poor Curtis Silwa dirty.

      Like, Mamdani all the way. But if I’ve got to pick between those last three, Silwa’s clearly the least awful choice.

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        I honestly don’t know too much about him except that he was a Gaurdian Angel founder and he took over the Reform Party.

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    yeah, I’ve read these stories countless times and the outcome has always been the same. In all honesty I think they do more harm than good. It gets it into the morons heads “oh, he’s going to win, I can stay home”.

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      In all honesty I think they do more harm than good. It gets it into the morons heads “oh, he’s going to win, I can stay home”.

      I keep seeing this line printed over and over again, in every election cycle, by people who seem to think there really is this enormous body of people who are enthusiastic about a candidate but unenthusiastic about voting.

      Hell, Cuomo complained about it shortly after the election. He lost because too many people liked him too much and thought his win was assured. I heard this after Brexit. I heard it after Hillary lost in 2016 and after Trump lost in 2020 and after Harris lost in 2024. We can have historic high turnouts and historic low turnouts. We can have sea changes in the composition and ideology of the voters. We can have scandals flood the papers a day before the election that throw polls into chaos and candidates who coast to victory on double-digit margins. (Incidentally, Mamdani won by 12% in an election he was projected to lose by more than that a month earlier). The “I was secretly so popular that people forgot to vote for me” myth endures.

      I’ve got an alternative hypothesis. Maybe people turned out for Mamdani because they liked him a lot and people stayed home for Cuomo because he was a creepy sex-pest POS. It had nothing to do with their projected odds of winning and everything to do with their appeal as political leaders.

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      Honestly at this point, because of first past the post, this probably splits the establishment vote. Which I personally think is hilarious (ranked choice being implemented would be better, of course).

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    Yeah, because the Dems have been keeping him in news cycle after news cycle by attacking him so he can spread his policy ideas.

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    Anecdotal but I’m not seeing his stuff as much on Instagram as I was before the primary election. Almost feels like IG tuned him down in the algorithm.

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      It’s as if IG is controlled by a billionaire so cowardly and manipulative the far left and right hate his guts.

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    The undead disembodied specters of the foul decomposing corpses of the bloated geriatric elites are assembling as we speak in vast underground chambers that reek of brimstone and sulfur.

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    Fuck yeah! Checking in from Portland where 3 of our 12 city councillors are democratic socialist. Love this shit, go Zohran