• givesomefucks@lemmy.worldOP
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    26 days ago

    I mean, he paid minors to cross state lines for sex…

    That’s a federal thing and Biden’s AG could bring charges.

    We have another month before Republicans are the only ones who can hold him accountable. But I’m not expecting much, even tho child trafficking should be an obvious charge and evidence already uncovered.

    I just don’t think Biden’s admin has it in them to do anything about this. They’ll ignore it and then later complain when Republicans do the same thing.

    Neither party is really interested in politicians ever being held accountable, if not, Biden would have done something about trump in the last four years.

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      26 days ago

      I just don’t think Biden’s admin has it in them to do anything about this. They’ll ignore it and then later complain when Republicans do the same thing.

      Really going to both-sides this? Merrick Garland is a heel-dragging clown, but even if Biden replaced him with the most aggressive and seasoned prosecutor on Earth today, how the absolute fucking fuck would you expect them to try this case in 28 days?

      That is a federal thing, and Biden could bring federal charges; good job, cookie for you. What would he be doing by bringing these? Oh, just casually getting him indicted and either not having enough time to start the trial or, if the trial does somehow start, creating jeopardy and thereby disallowing future prosecution when Trump inevitably drops the case. Good thinking. Too bad you’re not running the country with this 5D political calculus.


      Edit: so actually, there’s technically no risk of double jeopardy, because what the OP is describing is completely impossible anyway:

      “Unless the defendant consents in writing to the contrary, the trial shall not commence less than thirty days from the date on which the defendant first appears through counsel or expressly waives counsel and elects to proceed pro se.”

      Thus you’ll never reach a jury being impaneled or a witness being sworn, because the trial will never happen. So bravo, I guess; that risk isn’t there. What you have instead is a DOA case that simply goes absolutely nowhere.

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        Merrick Garland is a heel-dragging clown,

        And Biden appointed him after Trump tried to steal an election…

        Do you think Biden is stupid and thought Merrick wouldnt be a “heel dragging clown”? Or do you think he knew and that’s why he was picked?

        Is Biden incompetent or intentionally maintaining the status quo where the rich and politically connected are above the law?

        Like…

        even if Biden replaced him with the most aggressive and seasoned prosecutor on Earth today, how the absolute fucking fuck would you expect them to try this case in 28 days?

        Is this the first time you noticed Merrick was a waste of a pick? Do you think up until now he’s been doing a fine job?

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          You’re completely ignoring the point of my comment. To answer your side-stepping question, I suspected Garland would be a heel-dragging clown the second Biden appointed him. Now back to our regularly scheduled program: you seem to be implying that the DoJ should prosecute Gaetz because they can. What exactly does that accomplish except to risk double jeopardy? Because I know you know this can’t be tried in 28 days, and it could barely even be brought to trial in 28 days.

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            What exactly does that accomplish except to risk double jeopardy? B

            Double jeopardy doesn’t prevent state and federal charges for the same crime…

            So unless you think Trump’s DOJ will prosecute them, I don’t understand why you’re talking about double jeopardy. I mean, you seem to think Biden has to charge and finish?

            Like, you have some basic misunderstandings about our legal system (and other stuff) but you’re very opinionated about this and openly antagonistic to people trying to assist you…

            I’m not going to explain basic legal concepts while you try to have a slap fight over God knows what.

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              You’re correct that double jeopardy applies separately to state and federal charges. Literally nobody in this thread was disputing that; this is a strawman.

              I mean, you seem to think Biden has to charge and finish?

              Yes. For a successful federal prosecution started under this term, Biden has to charge and finish. Else you risk double jeopardy at the federal level while accomplishing absolutely nothing. Are you seriously suggesting that the DoJ assemble a case and attempt to bring it to trial in 28 days, then when that does fuck-all, hand this case off to a state AG which would presumably be Florida? You’ve still refused to answer what possible benefit Biden’s DoJ charging Gaetz at the federal level today confers, which tells me that your answer is “I have no good answer and I’ve backed myself into a corner, so I’m going to refuse to say that and double down instead.”

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                You think all federal charges just disappear every time there is a new administration?

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                    Do you think we should abandon even attempting to follow the rule of (moral) law just because we know a certain piece of shit often ignores it? I think you have to do the right thing regardless as long as it’s in your power.

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                  No, I’m not actually suggesting the ridiculous strawman you’ve just constructed. Of course plenty of prosecutions have continued through more than one administration. That said…

                  Holy fucking shit, are you actually suggesting that Trump wouldn’t direct his corrupt-ass DoJ to immediately drop the case against Gaetz? Is that actually how far in denial the “Um, actually, just charge him lol” camp is now? That they think if Biden charges him now, Trump will see to completion the federal prosecution of one of his cronies who he tried to nominate as the head of the DoJ? That’s the argument you’re running with? If so, then I’m done here, because that’s a delusion well beyond anything that’s worth anyone’s time.

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                    givesomefucks really cares about one thing and that’s raging toward Democrats. That’s all.

                    And weirdly, he has a fan club, apparently. I find it appalling that people upvote him and jump in to assist his “arguments”

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        This was all well known years ago. Waiting on a congressional report was always a cop out.

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      They could have charged him any time in the last several years. Don’t hold your breath.

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      he paid minors to cross state lines for sex

      The report specifically says he did not. One minor and he didn’t move her across state lines. However, 17 is statutory rape in Florida.

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        Paying a minor for sex alone is a violation of the Federal sex trafficking statute, no transportation across state lines required.