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      13 days ago

      I feel terrible for every citizen killed or made homeless/jobless because of this.

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        Hopefully they take the opportunity for a fresh start and move out of the settler occupation of Palestine.

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          The rest would do the same.
          As they always have proven their entire miserable history.
          Singling out Netanyahoo is Bernie the sheepdog’s tactics of dammage control

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            Blaming the government in power and those who put them in power for the actions taken by the government is totally reasonable.

            You’re suggesting well “what about a hypothetical government that doesn’t exist huh?”. That doesn’t matter. They don’t exist. Blame the government

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              Every government before him was the same, they’re not ‘hypothetical’. Ridiculous argument.
              What doesn’t exist is a reality where the next government isn’t brutally mistreating Palestine.
              Your hasbara is weak

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              Israel didn’t become an apartheid genocidal occupation of Palestinian land under Netanyahu. It’s has been since its founding.

              You’re suggesting we close our eyes and pretend their entire history doesn’t matter, that we just blame the current figurehead and his (variable but typically increasingly few) direct supporters.

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          Well I’m glad all of your elected officials represent your views and morals.

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        Fun fact: every citizen of the entity is considered a reservist so there ARE no civilians! If you’re a settler you’re a valid target no matter what!

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          Idk man. If you’re a child, a unhoused, or a otherwise a person without the economic means to leave because your ancestors were settlers and you just so happened to be born in the colonized land, I’d consider you a civilian. I think your view is too black and white.

          Screw you if you’re a deliberate Zionist benefiting from genocide though.

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            Israelis aren’t walled in and prevented from leaving like Palestinians are in Gaza.

            Israelis have no practical excuse to continue their occupation, especially when everyone is forced to serve in the IDF to actively aid the occupation rather than just passively.

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          I don’t want to talk ethics, but as a rule of thumb, winning a war is easier if you take out strategic targets than if you target civilians. Targeting civilians is what you do if your weapons aren’t precise enough to target tanks/planes etc.

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            Don’t think they care much. Or about anything except themselves for that matter.
            The most navel staring country on the planet

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              The reason the US supports Israel is exactly because Israel is a settler-colony. They’re part of the same genocidal settler project, Zionism is Manifest Destiny.

              If landback wins in Israel the ones paying attention know that it’s coming for them too.

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                  But they didn’t have to make a colony of European settlers to do that, did they? Egypt is a loyal collaborator with the US and it fulfills the same geostrategic goals, but the amount of support Egypt gets pales in comparison to Israel. Why is that?

                  We can’t dismiss the ideological importance of Israel. The unlimited support of the 51st state is exactly because it is a settler-colony.

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                  This belief that Israel is a US controlled proxy has always vexed me.
                  So-- honest question here-- From inside the US it appears that our entire political apparatus is controlled by a relatively small sprinkling of zionists doing whatever is good for Israel and is inevitably bad for the US-- going all the way back to the Nakba. But theres always people (like yourself) on Lemmy and Reddit claiming Israel is a US creature under US control for US gain.

                  As an American my free speech ends and I get prosecuted if I say anything anti semitic. I CAN say racist things about anyone else, all I want as long as I dont start a riot.

                  Can you tell me why you are so certain zionism is controlled by the US (your understanding), not the US by rich zionists (my understanding)?

                  edit: Did you just …downvote and run away from the question? It was an honest question.

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            Manifest destiny said the US land is all ours. Also Hawaii. Divine right mandated by God, so…

            /s

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        Just a reminder: 82% of all the Israeli Jews support ethnic cleansing in Gaza.

        Just saying.

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          It feels like there’s reason to inflate those numbers both for Israel and Palestine. Do we know they’re credible? Genuinely asking, I’m not sure from my cursory searx.

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    fucking trigger happy Netanyahu should be publicly dragged behind a chariot until he dies for his genocidal crimes and bringing the world to the brink of third world war.

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      last time they were aiming for the mossad and military bases, resulting in zero civilian deaths, which Israel celebrate as a faliure because they only consider civilian deaths as the success metric.

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      I’ll deliver this reply in Choose Your Own Adventure Format:

      If you want to make a reference to Donald Trump being at his birthday parade and thus exposed, vulnerable and in the open and presently not looking up, turn to page 89.

      If you rather make a reference to how we should leave the Devil be because the Devil himself is more respectable and honorable than any of these monstrous despots who murder out of spite and wrap themselves in scripture, turn to page 322.

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    Any Israeli war criminals of consequence have probably left for their summer home in Florida 2 days ago.