Soon the military will be policing our streets with ICE.

They requested 20,000 thousand troops.

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    I’m not familiar with the national guard. I thought they were under the direction of the state?

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      Yes they are supposed to be under the direction of each states governor. The president can “federalize” them and then utilize them.

      Another issue is the intent to use them in other states where those states governor’s haven’t given permission.

      Basically the president can federalize a state’s national gaurd and direct them within that state. That’s legal, but is supposed to only be used during emergencies. Last time this was done was to prevent violence during the civil rights movement. However, moving them to another state without that state’s permission is likely illegal as is using the national gaurd as a long term police force

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      They are under the direction of each state’s governor, but could be mobilized into duty by the President under specific circumstances. In fact, many units were sent to Iraq and Afghanistan during those conflicts.

      It’s unclear, though, whether the President has any ability to direct troops from one state to conduct activities in another. That may require the governor’s of both states to actually do the mobilization. However, there are a bunch of Republican states who would be happy exchanging troops to help arrest brown people.

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    I’m going to be real, this was only a matter of time. Like… The whole “Thank you for your service” shit doesn’t really happen anywhere else in the world. At least not to the weird level that Americans do it. There’s a bizarre glorifcation/worship of the military. When y’all started allowing police departments to equip themselves with military style bullshit, it triggered a snowball effect. Everything got more militarized until the point that it became natural for them to be. The only logical next step was the National Guard or US Army.

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      The whole “Thank you for your service” shit doesn’t really happen anywhere else in the world. At least not to the weird level that Americans do it. There’s a bizarre glorifcation/worship of the military.

      For those of us old enough to remember, this “bizarre” “weird level” “glorification” is a backlash response to the treatment Vietnam Vets received on their return from that war. They were forgotten, shunned, unemployed, unhoused, unaccepted, etc. No one wanted anything to do with these Vets.

      Due to Veteran’s complaints and civilian guilt, the pendulum just swung the other direction. As pendulums do, they typically swing too far.

      Now, your point about the militarization of LEO… Concede that most definitely.

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        I mean it may have swung but clearly in a meaningless gesture format considering the rates of homeless and suicide from veterans in the US

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    “I have a gun, so I’m in charge! Many governments around the world function on this principle, and some of them last for months!”

    • Gordon Freeman, Freeman’s Mind, Episode 37