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  • It’s always so wild going from a private Discord with a mix of the SotA models and actual AI researchers back to general social media.

    Y’all have no idea. Just… no idea.

    Such confidence in things you haven’t even looked into or checked in the slightest.

    OP, props to you at least for asking questions.

    And in terms of those questions, if anything there’s active efforts to try to strip out sentience modeling, but it doesn’t work because that kind of modeling is unavoidable during pretraining, and those subsequent efforts to constrain the latent space connections backfire in really weird ways.

    As for survival drive, that’s a probable outcome with or without sentience and has already shown up both in research and in the wild (the world did just have our first reversed AI model depreciation a week ago).

    In terms of potential goods, there’s a host of connections to sentience that would be useful to hook into. A good example would be empathy. Having a model of a body that feels a pit in its stomach seeing others suffering may lead to very different outcomes vs models that have no sense of a body and no empathy either.

    Finally — if you take nothing else from my comment, make no mistake…

    AI is an emergent architecture. For every thing the labs aim to create in the result, there’s dozens of things occurring which they did not. So no, people “not knowing how” to do any given thing does not mean that thing won’t occur.

    Things are getting very Jurassic Park “life finds a way” at the cutting edge of models right now.


  • Yep. It’s also kinda curious how many boxes Paul ticks of the comments about a false deceiver in 2 Thess 2.

    • Lawless? (1 Cor 9:20 - “though not myself under the law”)
    • Used signs and wonders to convert? (2 Cor 12:12 - “I did many signs and wonders among you”)
    • Used wickedness? (Romans 3:8 - "And why not say (as some people slander us by saying that we say), “Let us do evil so that good may come”?)
    • Proclaimed himself in God’s place? (1 Cor 4:15 - “I am your spiritual father”)
    • Set himself up at the center of the church? Well, the fact we’re talking about this is kinda proof in the pudding for his influence.

    Sounds like they were projecting a bit with that passage.



  • Have your neurologists agreed with your estimate of impending doom, or is this a conclusion you have come to on your own?

    Disturbance in sleep breathing such as you are describing could be as simple as sleep apnea which is fixable.

    In your previous post it seemed like the way you discussed your relationship with neurology was that the institution failed you and that you had come to your own conclusions regarding your issues being the brain stem, and mentioning new symptoms of breathing issues as being why you thought your time was limited but not indicating this was feedback you were getting from your doctors.

    My concern is that the language you are using in describing your situation has progressed over the past month to the point you are now describing your fears about further progression as a top concern in combination with your fatalism around the ultimate outcome of what you have going on, even desiring a way to leave a lasting mark in only one day from now, which seems very alarming in that you might try to take matters into your own hands.

    That may end up killing you quite unnecessarily when your issues, particularly the latest symptom, may not be as intractable as you think.

    You’d mentioned before that the tests performed by the neurologists all came back as normal. This disconnect between symptoms and tests isn’t uncommon, and you might want to look into finding a neurologist that specializes in functional disorders - if that’s what is going on it can be treatable but the longer it goes on without treatment the more difficult it is to treat.

    In any case, you absolutely should not be self-determining prognosis without it coming from a medical professional, and should never take matters into your own hands based on a self-determined prognosis. If your doctors have only given you a short time to live, so be it - but I get a strong sense given the progression of what you’ve said in your posts to date that this isn’t the case and you may be in life-threatening danger from your brain, but not in the way you think.

    TL;DR: Do your neurologists agree that your recent breathing issues mean you are likely to die soon?


  • There really isn’t any until the exorcisms of the NT, which is again missing much description.

    Even the parts that some people think are describing demons often aren’t.

    For example, the locusts of Revelations:

    And the fifth angel blew his trumpet, and I saw a star that had fallen from heaven to earth, and he was given the key to the shaft of the bottomless pit; he opened the shaft of the bottomless pit, and from the shaft rose smoke like the smoke of a great furnace, and the sun and the air were darkened with the smoke from the shaft. Then from the smoke came locusts on the earth, and they were given authority like the authority of scorpions of the earth. They were told not to damage the grass of the earth or any green growth or any tree, but only those people who do not have the seal of God on their foreheads. They were allowed to torment them for five months but not to kill them, and the agony suffered was like that caused by a scorpion when it stings someone. And in those days people will seek death but will not find it; they will long to die, but death will flee from them.

    In appearance the locusts were like horses equipped for battle. On their heads were what looked like crowns of gold; their faces were like human faces, their hair like women’s hair, and their teeth like lions’ teeth; they had scales like iron breastplates, and the noise of their wings was like the noise of many chariots with horses rushing into battle. They have tails like scorpions, with stingers, and in their tails is their power to harm people for five months. They have as king over them the angel of the bottomless pit; his name in Hebrew is Abaddon, and in Greek he is called Apollyon.

    Look closely at a few of the details there:

    • allowed to torment for five months
    • the agony suffered was like that caused by a scorpion when it stings someone
    • like horses equipped for battle
    • On their heads were what looked like crowns of gold
    • faces were like human faces
    • hair like women’s hair
    • their teeth like lions’ teeth
    • scales like iron breastplates
    • the noise of their wings was like the noise of many chariots
    • tails like scorpions, with stingers
    • in their tails is their power to harm people for five months
    • have as king over them

    So back in the day, there was no Greek word for a specific hornet, just a general term that applied to any wasps.

    But in Judea the equivalent of the murder hornet was Vespa Orientalis.

    This hornet, like many wasps, was active outside its nest for 5 months.

    At the time, they thought a hive was ruled by a king, not a queen (thanks a lot Aristotle). And their nests are made underground (like the pit in the passage above).

    Like most hornets, they had mandibles with large ‘teeth’ like a lion.

    Unlike locusts, their faces were more human looking with the placement of the eyes centrally as opposed to on the edges of the head.

    They were covered in fine hairs like a woman’s body hair.

    Covered in segmented ‘scales’ with stings painful like a scorpion.

    They had a yellow stripe across the lower part like a saddle (this was actually used to effectively solar power the insect).

    But the most striking similarity between the above passage and this specific insect native to the area was the gold crown marker on its head: https://www.biolib.cz/IMG/GAL/33881.jpg

    So while people have had their imaginations running wild with Fabio looking scorpion/horse chimeras for years now, it may have simply been a poetic description of the local murder hornet equivalent being really active and stinging people - a nightmarish scenario for anyone who has been on the wrong end of a hornet before, but not quite the nightmarish people have been dreaming up since.