LOL couch humper? Where does that come from?

Well if that’s the strategy they’re going to run the clock straight into the ground at the straight into the ground at this point. We have been losing on all fronts and although we don’t know the details of this deal yet it’s not sounding terribly promising

We can’t afford to go two years of a bad deal in the hopes that somebody will get in next time that will give us a better deal. I would remind you that it’s usually the democrats that are being anti-canadian trade and the unions that push for that kind of stuff. There’s no reason to believe that a democrat administration would be any nicer about it if the deals are already in place. And no guarantee it won’t be JD Vance or somebody who wins the next election

We are losing this trade war. Final deal is as bad as they’re suggesting then carney will have failed utterly and completely in his promise to handle trump and trump will have won. We can only hope that is better than they’re making it out

We don’t know the details of the deal yet but it certainly doesn’t sound like we won much.

““And the whole point of this is to change Canada’s behaviour,” Vance said. “Which they, you know, not entirely, but they’ve certainly shifted in a Trumpian direction.””

Well that doesn’t sound good

Well… at least he’s consistent! And that’s hard to find in this day and age…

LOL sorry, i use voice dictation for several reasons and it does that sometimes and i don’t always catch it. It’s ‘riding’

Well the NDPis always an option. If you kind of like the conservatives but you don’t like the current candidates you should probably get involved with your local writing association and see about helping to pick a candidate that you like. Or if you’ve already got a conservative MP in your writing meet with his or her policy committee or them directly and talk about what you’d like to see different. You’d be amazed at how much of an effect that has and if you feel that way then there’s bound to be others who also feel that way.

Democracy isn’t about just showing up once every four or five years to vote after all 😁

Well, it’s kind of complicated 😁

We signed the original deal a decade and change ago and then built the bridge. The deal was that all revenues would go to canada until the 4.5 billion usd price was paid back, then it would go to income splitting.

Trump said ‘nope’ and Carney and trump agreed to a new deal. But Carney would not let the details be released. However the documents have since been leaked, and we BELIEVE the leaked version is correct. The liberals have not said otherwise.

The new deal is a more of a preliminary deal document which is being finalized, but the terms of the deal are laid out.

Carney said the new deal still included the ‘pay back canada for the bridge’ clause, but its’ pretty clear from the leaked doc that it does not. Carney has subsequently said he "could have explained that better’ and does not deny that will no longer be the case.

There is also a requirement now to pay into a ‘development fund’ for ‘the area’ which is thought to mean it would be spent on the US side, and may even go to maintenance of the competing bridge. The libs refuse to confirm or deny that.

So … the NEW deal is still in place but there are a few elements which SOUND pretty bad but we’re not sure about. It seems certain however that when carney said (two times) that the bridge would include repayment he was not speaking accurately. Some say he lied, some say he may have been “misbriefed,” but either way it looks horrible and hence the pic