With my recent post I was trying to ask if there are other people like me who also feel that people seem to focus more and more on skin color and ethnicity in an unhealthy and obsessive way and I thought I’d find some people agreeing with me who also feel uncomfortable and stressed out by this.

But instead the overwhelming response was people trying to justify racism instead of agreeing that it’s a bad thing and needs to end. As if they were trying to use every possible argument to bash on me and justify racism.

Why could it be the case that so many people here on Lemmy support racism? In my opinion there is no reason to discriminate someone based on their looks PERIOD!

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      Which “white people” are you talking about?

      Irish? Scottish? Italians? How about Sicilian? Are Roma white to you? Greek?

      See, that’s the problem with pre-judging someone just on immutable characteristics that you believe mean a certain thing.

      Throughout time groups of people have been biased against other groups, for all sorts of reasons, largely just “out group”.

      Assuming that only goes one way, and assuming based on skin color alone (again, exactly which color, is there a Pantone code for “white people”?) that everyone in that assumed group have the same experience is just nonsense. Or bias, prejudice, bigotry. Pick whichever you like.

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      You can literally look up the definition on Google: [“1 : a belief that race is a fundamental determinant of human traits and capacities and that racial differences produce an inherent superiority of a particular race”

      “also : behavior or attitudes that reflect and foster this belief : racial discrimination or prejudice”](https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/racism)

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        I’m not confused about what racism is. You’re the one saying people who disagree with you are supporting racism.

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          I’m saying people not acknowledging unequally treating people based on their looks is bad and even trying to justify it are the cause of racism since their argumentation is based on the fundamentals of its literal definition and thereby supporting it in an ongoing cycle.

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            what you just wrote seems quite at odds with the definition you just posted two comments up. the google definition talks about belief in differing traits and capacity and a belief in racial superiority. your definition seems to only care about unequal treatment. it seems an equivocation meant to disparage those who might seek to counteract historical (google definition) racism with a bit of modern (your definition) racism. it strikes me as disingenuous in the extreme.

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            See its very paradox to say, we need to act racist because racism exists instead of trying to end it by the root. You can’t fight fire with fire, it’s as simple as that. And that’s not just my opinion. Wake up people

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    OP, when you’re out of your teens you’ll remember posting this and cringe, which is a good thing!

    “Racism = bad” is a solid fundament. Working out the kinks is tough, though.

    Keep up posting and debating, that helps. I think that we’re roughly all on the same side here.

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      Yea I really don’t understand how people on this platform don’t realize that racism is bad.

      And I’m not in my teenage years anymore.

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    Dude, they’re not racists for disagreeing with your reasoning.

    Racism, of various levels, are built upon hundreds of years of mistrust, inequality and misinformation.

    It’s not as simple as just “cmon can’t we all just get along?”. And they are trying to explain this to you. And inform you that it’s a difficult and long path that has to be built slowly and carefully, and each place on earth will have to build it in a way that works for them, because all places experience racism differently.

    Them trying to explain this to you doesn’t make them racists. None of them are saying discrimination is ok. Not a single one.