Question: If you are in a country outside the US; And you unironically love china you see them as a viable alternative to America , as a market and for their technological achievements; are you considered by Americans to be a Tankie? I’ve always had the idea that “Tankie” equals “traitor” in the eyes of Americans.
AFAIK, originally “tankie” comes from being on chinas side of the Tianamen Square Massacre. So on the side of the tanks. It doesn’t have directly to do with U.S.
So if someone thinks that China did good there, they are likely a tankie.
According to Christina Petterson, “Politically speaking, tankies regard past and current socialist systems as legitimate attempts at creating communism, and thus have not distanced themselves from Stalin, China, etc.”
So you also have to consider yourself a supporter of what you understand “Comminism” means, to be one.
this is incorrect, the origin of the term “tankie” comes from the UK in the 50s, used to refer to hard-line communists. The term references the USSR sending the military to Hungary in 1956 in response to the Hungarian Revolution.
I have updated my post to point out the Hungarian Revolution, which is what is written in Wikipedia, if Wikipedia is wrong, please provide more context.
So for example, If I am in the social democrat party of my country or at least support them. And if the social democrat party of my country partly supports China, views them as allies or adopt economic policies of China does that mean we are all Tankies? This speaking of real economic policies treaties and not just abstract ideology.
Well that is very funny to learn; I guess I have to learn more about these Tankies I never knew I was part of. So All countries in Brics are Tankies? Contries that want to decouple from the dollar Tankies; And given their foreign policies and genius trade wars of the US A lot of economic relations might arrange themselves towards China and east Asia in general… So we will have to see; Under this definition the future is looking awfully “Tankie”
Edit: I am chuckling at the idea that I am politically a soc-dem and fiscally Tankie (It still sounds like some very red scare way to say “traitor”. The interesting thing to find out will be: “Traitor to what”)
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And, incidentally, the tanks were leaving Tiananmen Square, not entering, “Tank Man” left the scene unharmed with some other civilians: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qq8zFLIftGk
Question: If you are in a country outside the US; And you unironically love china you see them as a viable alternative to America , as a market and for their technological achievements; are you considered by Americans to be a Tankie? I’ve always had the idea that “Tankie” equals “traitor” in the eyes of Americans.
Yes, absolutely, that would 100% make you a “tankie”
Well I come to Lemmie to find out I am 100% A Tankie! How scary!
AFAIK, originally “tankie” comes from being on chinas side of the Tianamen Square Massacre. So on the side of the tanks. It doesn’t have directly to do with U.S.So if someone thinks that China did good there, they are likely a tankie.Update: I looked it up and it seems I was wrong, it was about arguing in favor of using tanks in the Hungarian Revolution. See more here: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tankie
So you also have to consider yourself a supporter of what you understand “Comminism” means, to be one.
this is incorrect, the origin of the term “tankie” comes from the UK in the 50s, used to refer to hard-line communists. The term references the USSR sending the military to Hungary in 1956 in response to the Hungarian Revolution.
Yes, which is what I posted in an update of that post.
Why is the post up upvoted lol, it’s objectively incorrect.
I have updated my post to point out the Hungarian Revolution, which is what is written in Wikipedia, if Wikipedia is wrong, please provide more context.
So for example, If I am in the social democrat party of my country or at least support them. And if the social democrat party of my country partly supports China, views them as allies or adopt economic policies of China does that mean we are all Tankies? This speaking of real economic policies treaties and not just abstract ideology.
Yes, that does make you a tankie
Well that is very funny to learn; I guess I have to learn more about these Tankies I never knew I was part of. So All countries in Brics are Tankies? Contries that want to decouple from the dollar Tankies; And given their foreign policies and genius trade wars of the US A lot of economic relations might arrange themselves towards China and east Asia in general… So we will have to see; Under this definition the future is looking awfully “Tankie”
Edit: I am chuckling at the idea that I am politically a soc-dem and fiscally Tankie (It still sounds like some very red scare way to say “traitor”. The interesting thing to find out will be: “Traitor to what”)
Wrong: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tankie
But actually: JFK Files Reveal CIA Role in the 1956 Hungarian Uprising
See also:
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And, incidentally, the tanks were leaving Tiananmen Square, not entering, “Tank Man” left the scene unharmed with some other civilians: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qq8zFLIftGk
Is the update on my post not showing for you? I said I was wrong and posted the Wikipedia link to the Tankie article.
It is showing, I just didn’t read down far enough to notice it. Maybe it’s better to put updates like that at the top.