Not really. Pardons apply to criminal liability, not civil fines. HIPAA violations usually result in civil penalties. A pardon wouldn’t erase a regulatory fine from HHS. That’s not how pardons work.
I want to call your response out as doomerism, but I’ll allow you to retract the idea you put forth with the additional knowledge put forth here.
Getting sick of this “we’re fucked, there’s nothing we can do” sentiment everywhere I go on Lemmy. It’s sus AF at this point. It’s also contagious, which I believe is the point. So I certainly will never stand for it in response to anything I put out here.
Agreed. The right is successful partly because they’re at least saying there’s a chance.
Reality is that we’re gonna have a bad time, but the length, severity, and scope are within our collective control. Resist, organize, talk to the people in your life meeting them where they are.
There was no hope or escape from the czar in 1916, and yet a year later there was. Even in central Europe in the 1930s-40s there was hope and it blossomed in the form of resistance and rebellion.
Do you think there will be regulatory fines from HHS?
I mean, maybe if a hospital does something Secretary Brainworm doesn’t approve of like recommending vaccines or other proven, legitimate medical treatments, then they’d get fined. But failing to protect privacy? Why would HHS under this administration care?
You’re shifting the goalposts. The original claim was that a pardon would negate HIPAA fines, which it wouldn’t. Now you’re saying HHS won’t enforce the law – different argument entirely.
If you want to discuss regulatory capture or selective enforcement, fine – but let’s not pretend that means the law ceases to exist or that we should throw up our hands. That’s the kind of learned helplessness I’m pushing back on.
Again – sus doomerism. GTFO homie. I smell your camp from a mile the fuck away.
Not really. Pardons apply to criminal liability, not civil fines. HIPAA violations usually result in civil penalties. A pardon wouldn’t erase a regulatory fine from HHS. That’s not how pardons work.
I want to call your response out as doomerism, but I’ll allow you to retract the idea you put forth with the additional knowledge put forth here.
Getting sick of this “we’re fucked, there’s nothing we can do” sentiment everywhere I go on Lemmy. It’s sus AF at this point. It’s also contagious, which I believe is the point. So I certainly will never stand for it in response to anything I put out here.
Agreed. The right is successful partly because they’re at least saying there’s a chance.
Reality is that we’re gonna have a bad time, but the length, severity, and scope are within our collective control. Resist, organize, talk to the people in your life meeting them where they are.
There was no hope or escape from the czar in 1916, and yet a year later there was. Even in central Europe in the 1930s-40s there was hope and it blossomed in the form of resistance and rebellion.
Hey. Thanks for providing advice and guidance like that. It’s needed, and it’s good, and it’s awesome.
Do you think there will be regulatory fines from HHS?
I mean, maybe if a hospital does something Secretary Brainworm doesn’t approve of like recommending vaccines or other proven, legitimate medical treatments, then they’d get fined. But failing to protect privacy? Why would HHS under this administration care?
You’re shifting the goalposts. The original claim was that a pardon would negate HIPAA fines, which it wouldn’t. Now you’re saying HHS won’t enforce the law – different argument entirely.
If you want to discuss regulatory capture or selective enforcement, fine – but let’s not pretend that means the law ceases to exist or that we should throw up our hands. That’s the kind of learned helplessness I’m pushing back on.
Again – sus doomerism. GTFO homie. I smell your camp from a mile the fuck away.
I’d argue that you shifted the goal posts when you suggested that civil fines would be a possible path to punishment.
That’s all I was responding to. I never suggested that pardons would come into it.
You’re now arguing over a claim you say you never made, while responding to a correction I gave to someone else’s hypothetical about pardons.
So either you misunderstood the original thread and jumped in sideways, or you’re walking it back now. Either way:
Pardons don’t cover HIPAA fines.
HIPAA is still law, even if enforcement is selective.
Doomerism isn’t analysis.
This isn’t dodgeball, it’s policy. Stay sharp or stay quiet.