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NightOwl@lemmy.ca to World News@lemmy.ml · 1 year ago

Less Than Half in U.S. Now Sympathetic Toward Israelis

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Less Than Half in U.S. Now Sympathetic Toward Israelis

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NightOwl@lemmy.ca to World News@lemmy.ml · 1 year ago
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More Americans express sympathy for the Israelis (46%) than the Palestinians (33%) in the Middle East situation, but the margin has shrunk to a new low.
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  • wurzelgummidge@lemmy.ml
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    And this is a country whose people have been fed heavily pro-Israel propaganda since the day they were born. What does the rest of the world think ?

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    • MTK@lemmy.world
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      Hey, that’s not nice, the shit is insulted…

      No but really, the Israeli government is absolutely the shit of shits.

  • otto@sh.itjust.works
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    Fascism is unpopular. 🙁

    • MTK@lemmy.world
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      Sadly, i’m not so sure that is true these days

      • otto@sh.itjust.works
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        :(

  • geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml
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    Pump those numbers down. Those are rookie numbers.

  • يا ليتني كوري شمالي @lemmy.ml
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    Still too high but it isn’t easy to undo decades of brainwashing

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    • IttihadChe@lemmy.ml
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      You had me in the first half. Then you just had to moralize about genocide not being a valid red-line for you.

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      • comfy@lemmy.ml
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        Not sure why that’s relevant, but:

        The first democratically elected female prime minister of a Muslim majority country was Benazir Bhutto of Pakistan, who led her party to victory in the 1988 general election and later in 1993

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_the_first_women_heads_of_state_and_government_in_Muslim-majority_countries

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          • comfy@lemmy.ml
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            …do you not know where Bosnia and Herzegovina is? It’s a coastal post-Yugo country next to Serbia and Croatia, south of Hungary IIRC. The Bosnian war and NATO intervention isn’t exactly secret knowledge.

            Very cool for your 1 country

            The USA (the country in question) has zero (0) women presidents elected ever. Not even one. So yeah imma stop reading this conversation lol

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          • يا ليتني كوري شمالي @lemmy.ml
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            Weaponizing ignorance to justify genocide. Here’s another list: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Muslim_women_heads_of_state_and_government

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      • يا ليتني كوري شمالي @lemmy.ml
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        Shut up you ignorant fool https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Muslim_women_heads_of_state_and_government

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        I think that your point confuses islamic state with a muslim majority state. While almost all muslim majority states allow women to vote(even though some only quite recently like saudis), islamic state would be different. This is of course same for any fundamentalist state like a jewish one or christian one. They are incompatible with democracy.

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    deleted by creator

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    Many people still think “both sides” though

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      Yes

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    So what are they going to do? This is what happens when you prop up & support ethno religious states. Don’t want it then stop supporting Israel’s existence.

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      The problem isn’t that Israel is an ethno-religious state, it’s that it’s a genocidal, apartheid, settler-colonial state imposing itself on someone else’s land, and it’s trying to ethnically cleanse that land of its indigenous peoples, and it’s trying to expand its territory into a “Greater Israel,” extending its project of ethnic cleansing ever wider.

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      Orrrrr, now hear me out, we ratchet up the propaganda, black listing, and police responses to protests. Eh?

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      You can support Israel without supporting what they’re doing.

      Edit: the state of Israel

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        If you are aware of what they are doing, and you provide support to them, that is therefore knowingly providing support to their actions, whether you agree with those actions or not.

        Or, if you just meant ‘agree with’ rather than ‘supply’, then I would say that what they’re doing is not something they will ever stop. It’s an integral part of their existence as an imperial Zionist state, they aren’t just doing it for fun, or because of some ‘bad apples’. They have no plan or desire to stop, their history is mostly just this same type of war and besieging repeated, and the USA would probably abandon them and let them collapse if they miraculously did decide to stop, because the US imperial strategy only values the Zionist Regime as a attack dog in the Middle East, a region critical for resource control.

        A lot of words to say, it might as well be supporting guns without supporting bullets. There is no realistic situation where guns won’t be used to shoot bullets. They can’t be separated, in reality. Why support guns, at that point? It’s just a comfortable abstract idea in a vacuum.

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        The name Israel was chosen by the Zionist movement for a reason & reflects what they are doing. By keeping the name, you’re enabling/supporting them.

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        What would “support” look like in this case? How do you ensure that support isn’t weaponised and used to promote genocide?

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          How do you ensure the alternative doesn’t?

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            So you can’t answer the question

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              • queermunist she/her@lemmy.ml
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                Ethnostates are never necessary and are always fascist.

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                You want the genocidal dictator to “step down” and the genocidal terrorist army “needs reform”?

                You’re not even trying, man. At least try to make it seem like you actually believe your “both sides” hasbara. Ass is, we can all see that you’re a rabid genocidal Zionist.

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                  This community is clearly pro-Palestine since I keep getting downvoted, and only my comments are getting deleted, but I do find it funny how everyone here is giving me shit for being a Zionist and everyone else is ignoring my statement about how Palestine would be significantly worse. What’s your alternative?

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            Absence of support of Israel isn’t the same thing as antisemitism, no matter what they’d like you to believe. I have no particular views regarding Ecuador, that doesn’t mean I’m racist against them.

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      • يا ليتني كوري شمالي @lemmy.ml
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        Israel is what it is doing. It was founded on settler colonialism and ethnic cleansing.

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        No, you really can’t: the nature of a thing is what it does

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