Born in 1890, my great-grandfather had great-uncles who fought in the Civil War. He saw the invention of the automobile, the airplane, two world wars, and saw the Apollo 11 moon landing a month before he died.

I was born in the 80s, I have been trying to take stock of how much life has changed since then. Cable television? Satellite television? Cell phones to smartphones? The internet? Life hasn’t seemed to have made much progress. When we get down to it life isn’t radically different now than it was in 80s. Just hoping there is more that I’m simply not noticing

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    Same could be said about everything we have though couldn’t it?

    Cars, aircraft, boats… All improved significantly…

    But is any of it truly innovative?

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      If my son was born when I was born, he wouldn’t be alive and my wife may not have survived the birth. If he was born 5-10 years ago, he’d have brain damage. Today, because we know what to look for and how to treat and prevent many pregnancy problems and early childhood problems he’s alive, healthy and thriving. There are a million innovations that are super niche, so we don’t know about them.

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      Yes. Taking an existing thing and improving upon it is the literal definition of innovation.

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        Not the definition I am referring to

        • introducing new ideas; original and creative in thinking.

        Conceptually, improving upon something isn’t entirely original

        It can be hard to grasp. We can’t imagine what life and the mindset of people were before a concept existed because we have always had it.

        Yes, we can imagine the difficulty of travel before the invention of aircraft

        But it’s hard for us to understand the profound difference to life and everyone’s worldview at the time

        People fantasized about human flight for what seemed like forever to them, so long that it became a fantasy that many believed would never be realized

        Then suddenly it was

        What have we experienced collectively since the 80s that is like that?

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          I disagree. Improving an existing concept and changing it to make it more practical or easier to produce for example is innovation.

          The examples you gave in the introduction are examples of that: The parts that make an automobile existed when it was invented and you could argue again that it wasn’t a completely novel idea but an improvement of the steam engine and horse-drawn vehicles.

          The airplane massively relied on improvements in engine and material design.

          Your assessment that innovations used to be completely original in their design and are not any more is a fallacy.

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            I also disagree

            Your reply in of itself is a fallacy

            An airplane relying upon improvements engine and material design does not negate the very real revelation of human flight to the world

            Nor does your oversimplified and ultimately incorrect explanation steam engines and evolution of horse drawn vehicles

            Especially considering the first automobiles were steam powered

            It completely misses the point

            The horseless carriage itself was the innovation

            I apologize for not explaining the question more thoroughly

            I am talking about innovation in a fully realized concept

            I always thought that flying cars would be the next major leap in innovation, but it’s still in its fledgling stages