No it isn’t theft. It’s copyright infringement, which is decidedly not theft.
These companies used everyone else’s copy written material for “training” but that’s fine because it was only taking that data from everyone. But once someone takes data from them, IP or not, they claim to have been harmed. But don’t claim they’re harming anyone else…somehow.
They’re not paying anyone for their IP, and no one should pay them for their IP. It isn’t a problem for them, so it’s not a problem for anyone else to do it to them.
Do we honestly believe Microsoft doesn’t have ANY IP owned by others in their training data? They’ve managed to completely destroy their own protections, I can’t see how an actually competent Judge could see it any other way. Sure you’ll find corrupt Judges that’ll side with them, but that doesn’t make it correct.
These things are not the same regardless of how you feel about them. No country treats copyright infringement as theft, and no country treats theft as copyright infringement. They are legally different things with different requirements.
Copyright infringement can potentially feel like theft, but it still isn’t, because it does not meet the legal criteria for theft.
These are legal terms, they are not based on how you feel.
I think you mix up these two things. Regardless of Ai, using copyrighted material (without license) is theft.
No it isn’t theft. It’s copyright infringement, which is decidedly not theft.
These companies used everyone else’s copy written material for “training” but that’s fine because it was only taking that data from everyone. But once someone takes data from them, IP or not, they claim to have been harmed. But don’t claim they’re harming anyone else…somehow.
They’re not paying anyone for their IP, and no one should pay them for their IP. It isn’t a problem for them, so it’s not a problem for anyone else to do it to them.
Do we honestly believe Microsoft doesn’t have ANY IP owned by others in their training data? They’ve managed to completely destroy their own protections, I can’t see how an actually competent Judge could see it any other way. Sure you’ll find corrupt Judges that’ll side with them, but that doesn’t make it correct.
Copyright infringement is theft.
No it isn’t.
Yes it is.
Show the law then, because theft has requirements that copyright infringement doesn’t accomplish.
I’m not talking about a specific law… In example by law training Ai by content without your consent is not theft. But yet, we know it is theft.
What law are you talking about?
Copyright infringement is copyright infringement.
Theft is theft.
These things are not the same regardless of how you feel about them. No country treats copyright infringement as theft, and no country treats theft as copyright infringement. They are legally different things with different requirements.
Copyright infringement can potentially feel like theft, but it still isn’t, because it does not meet the legal criteria for theft.
These are legal terms, they are not based on how you feel.