• Hobthrob@lemmy.world
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    1 day ago

    I mean, if you were not going distill the information you could have saved yourself the effort and just given the link.

    Thank you for the link though, even if I don’t see the relevance to the subject.

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      Oh Jesus Christ, I should’ve known better. You’re a DGG orbiter. This is the game you fuckers love to play hahahaha

      I won’t be giving you any more sources.

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        1 day ago

        A quick Google tells me DGG is shorthand for Destiny’s audience - is that correct?

        If so, then no. He’s come up in my research into Hasan Piker, but I haven’t dived very deep on him, and it’s not on my current priorities, but I do see a lot of focus on both him and Sam Altman in the replies, so perhaps I do need to check that and see if there is anything of substance there, besides online feuding.

        I’ll admit, I’m not entirely sure what an orbiter is exactly. When I look it up it references streamers “orbiting” larger streamers, but I don’t think that would apply here given that I’m not a streamer (nor particularly invested in any).

        I’m sorry to hear that you won’t be engaging further. I’d still love some relevant refutations of my actual points if you ever decide you want to engage in the future. All the best to you in the meantime.

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      Do you have eyes? I want you to really focus and read each word here:

      Saltman has repeatedly portrayed pro-Palestine advocacy as support for terrorism, directly accusing streamer Hasan Piker of promoting “terrorist propaganda” and “Hamas recruitment videos.” In September 2025, he endorsed calls to ban Piker from Twitch, claiming Piker’s content encourages violence and supports terrorist organizations, while framing criticism of Israel as antisemitism. This rhetoric dehumanizes Palestinians by equating their resistance to Israel’s occupation with inherent threats, perpetuating consent for settler violence.

      His associations extend to content creators like Ethan and Hila Klein of the H3 Podcast and Destiny’s community, with whom he has collaborated on attacks against Piker, viewing him as a threat due to his effective advocacy for Palestinian liberation. Saltman’s push to repeal Section 230 appears motivated by a desire to further censor online criticism of Israel. Twitch banned him indefinitely in November 2024 for “extreme harassment,” including doxxing and targeting employees who refused to comply with his demands.

      Source

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        1 day ago

        Yes, I see that Hasan Piker is mentioned, and I see that there’s a history between Sam Altman.

        But that has no relevance to anything I’ve written, unless you think that all criticism of Hasan Piker must originate from Dan Saltman, and in this case by proxy of me.

        Is that the connection you’re trying to draw?

        Edit: Dan Saltman / Sam Altman

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            Yeah, my bad. I got the spelling of the names confused and then the wrong name stuck. I’m aware that you’re talking about Dan Saltman, and that was also who I was thinking of at the time.

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                Eh, it’s a bit of a mix of mild dyslexia and previously alliteration for memory. I’ve got some level of ADHD/ADD so I’ve had to build up some interesting ways to remember things, but sometimes it misfires.

                I’ve corrected it where I saw it, but given that Saltman was irrelevant to the original points I made, I don’t really think misspelling his name has any bearing.

                But it’s interesting if you consider misspelling an unrelated name enough reason to dismiss substantive points. That would indicate that you’re looking for a reason to dismiss without engaging with the substance.

                Is that true, and if so, why?

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                  Saltman literally started the shock collar rumor.

                  It’s not misspelling, you mixed two very different people up multiple times even though I told you each time we weren’t talking about Sam Altman.

                  Considering your refusal to look into any of this yourself (playing dumb about the connection between Dan, Destiny, and Hasan makes this incredibly clear), I’m only here to banter. I don’t and won’t take you seriously anymore.

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                    22 hours ago

                    I mean, I already told you about my mild dyslexia, so I’m not sure why you’re fishing for a deeper meaning there. I literally misplaced 2 letters of two very similar sounding and spelled names - that’s it.

                    I also read the write up you linked on him, so it’s not like I confused his person with Sam Altman.

                    It really feels like you’re just trying to discredit and dismiss me wholesale based on anything. Well, anything except any evidence or fully-formed argument.

                    I don’t really care about whatever rumours were spread, I saw Hasan’s own videos, I heard him change his story and I saw the modified collar he showed, and I linked an evidence-based little investigation based on Hasan’s own videos in another comment. There’re no logical leaps or excuses involved or needed, and whatever rumours Saltman spread has nothing to do with the evidence I saw from Hasan’s own stream.